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re: Auburn in NFL draft 2023: Any top 100 picks?

Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:41 am to
Posted by mckibaj
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:41 am to
Undrafted Free Agents Signed:
Leota - Panthers
Shenker - Raiders
Shed Jackson - Bengals
Zierer - Texans
Council - Jets
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:43 am to
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Leota - Panthers
wish he hadnt been injured last year. Heck of a player
Posted by ALhunter
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:21 pm to
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I highly doubt he will be commemorated as much as a Mason or maybe even Peyton Barber and Peyton didn’t do as much in college.

I don’t see what the fuss is all about.
At one point last season Tank was 236th in yards before contact and 12th in yards after contact. In other words, he was doing a lot with almost no help. He had ~0 yards before contact at one point. His QB was the worst in the SEC and completed less than 50% of his passes. His Oline was arguably the worst in the SEC. Despite the complete dumpster fire that was the offense, he still managed 5.5 YPC and went in the 3rd round.

Auburn fans are so used to our running backs going to the league that people call a guy going in the 3rd round with top 15 YAC "good" or "average", but if the rest of our team played at that level we would win a national championship. Tank was an elite collegiate back meaning ~top 10% of starting backs on good Division 1 teams.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 3:18 pm to
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At one point last season Tank was 236th in yards before contact and 12th in yards after contact. In other words, he was doing a lot with almost no help. He had ~0 yards before contact at one point. His QB was the worst in the SEC and completed less than 50% of his passes. His Oline was arguably the worst in the SEC. Despite the complete dumpster fire that was the offense, he still managed 5.5 YPC and went in the 3rd round.

All of that and I still don’t hate the guy lol. I liked Jarquez better and he had the same OL and QB. What’s your deal?

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Auburn fans are so used to our running backs going to the league that people call a guy going in the 3rd round with top 15 YAC "good" or "average", but if the rest of our team played at that level we would win a national championship.
, I’m obviously not as captivated as you by the fact he went third round so I don’t feel the need to praise him anymore than he has earned. I think third round is appropriate for him and I knew he was this kind of a back as a freshman. What is more disappointing is he was kinda sold to be what Jahmyr Gibbs became with the hands. Mike Farrel said he had the best hands in camps and all of that, and he ultimately disappointed there. Well you see where Gibbs got drafted and where Tank got drafted.
Posted by ALhunter
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:15 pm to
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What’s your deal?
Just gives me a chuckle seeing AU fans have difficulty parsing the performance of one elite player from an overall bad team, and being "disappointed" in a guy who was a top 10-15 back in CFB.

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I think third round is appropriate for him
Maybe that's the rub. Some people would call a top 100 draft pick elite and others wouldn't.

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Mike Farrel said he had the best hands in camps and all of that, and he ultimately disappointed there. Well you see where Gibbs got drafted and where Tank got drafted.
OK so top 5 in CFB at your position and top 20 pick is elite in your mind that's fine.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Just gives me a chuckle seeing AU fans have difficulty parsing the performance of one elite player from an overall bad team

That’s not really it. I think his counterpart is better at RB. I also don’t think Tank is elite that much at anything.


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Maybe that's the rub. Some people would call a top 100 draft pick elite and others wouldn't.

I think a third round pick can easily be discarded. They are not proven. Tre Mason was pick number 75. He didn’t even earn a second year to prove himself.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 4:28 pm
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:37 pm to
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I think a third round pick can easily be discarded.
OK we disagree on the definition of elite. I consider a top 10-15 player and top 100 draft pick elite, you don't.

By your definition we have had maybe 3-4 elite players going back to the 2010 class? D Ford, Robinson, D brown or something along those lines? That's fine.

Tre Mason went crazy. There are busts in every round of the draft but everyone picked in the first 3 rounds is either an elite college player or a developmental guy with elite measurables of some kind. Again, my definition of "elite" you can define it however you like.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:47 pm to
Tre went crazy only after Rams stabbed him in the back by getting Gurley.

We haven’t had a whole lot of elite players. Kerryon wasn’t. Slayton wasn’t. There is a weakness that puts people in the third round.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:00 pm to
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Kerryon wasn’t
ALL-SEC, SEC Offensive player of the year, not elite
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:23 pm to
He was productive. So was CAP (1600 yards one season) and you won’t hear me call CAP elite.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:35 pm to
Here are stats proving that our next RB1 will make us forget about Tank...

Ya'll are making this too personal with the whole "stop being neutral, love him already!!" 15 year old fanboi mentality.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 5:45 pm
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:09 pm to
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Here are stats proving that our next RB1 will make us forget about Tank...

Ya'll are making this too personal with the whole "stop being neutral, love him already!!" 15 year old fanboi mentality.

LINK
Not personal. You just have an extremely high bar for "elite" which is fine... you're allowed to have it - it's just so high that it's a bit of a joke.

Kerryon Johnson - AP second team All-American. SEC offensive POTY. First team All-SEC. Drafted in the second round... is not Bo Jackson reincarnated... not elite
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:13 pm to
If Kerryon and Tank have to be “elite”

CAP is going up there too then.


Literally led the whole SEC in rushing like a fricking boss.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 6:14 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:26 pm to
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Kerryon Johnson - AP second team All-American. SEC offensive POTY. First team All-SEC. Drafted in the second round... is not Bo Jackson reincarnated... not elite

Because he beat out Nick Chubb, a guy that shared the rock often does that mean he is better than Nick Chubb? Or better yet near that level? No

Is there like an ultra elite?
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 6:54 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:03 pm to
Tank showed a lot of talent and potential as a freshman. He never got even an ounce better at AU. He’s a good back and could have a good pro career.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:25 pm to
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Pappoe 5th Round


No way he goes that late.

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by jvilletiger25

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/2/23 at 6:12 am to
There is no reason in throwing shade; Your takes are usually mind numbingly stupid as well.


I provided stats that show Tank isn’t even elite enough to be best on last year’s team. Is there a skill or an attribute that makes Tank elite?

Hunter had a better YAC and Broken Tackles percentage. Even if Tank is elite there there is no drop off.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 6:19 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
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Posted on 5/2/23 at 6:48 am to
Was projected 3rd round, so what’s so funny?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:54 am to
Dane Brugler's Early 2024 Mock Draft (The Athletic):


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31. Philadelphia Eagles:
D.J. James, CB, Auburn


A former Oregon transfer, James was a pleasant surprise last season. He did a great job limiting big plays and will enter this season with an early-round projection.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:17 am to
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Was projected 3rd round, so what’s so funny?

I never saw that, but what's so funny is you're constantly wrong on evaluating football players. You're Gatewood fan club leadership cemented that a few years ago.

There was no way Pappoe was going to be anything but a day 3 pick. He could have moved into the 4th round because he is a camp drill all star, but the dude is tiny and didn't really produce in college.

Plus, I don't really care where he was projected. He went exactly where you said there was no chance he would.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 10:23 am
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