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re: Auburn in NFL draft 2023: Any top 100 picks?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:41 am to makersmark1
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:41 am to makersmark1
Undrafted Free Agents Signed:
Leota - Panthers
Shenker - Raiders
Shed Jackson - Bengals
Zierer - Texans
Council - Jets
Leota - Panthers
Shenker - Raiders
Shed Jackson - Bengals
Zierer - Texans
Council - Jets
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:43 am to mckibaj
quote:wish he hadnt been injured last year. Heck of a player
Leota - Panthers
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:21 pm to jangalang
quote:At one point last season Tank was 236th in yards before contact and 12th in yards after contact. In other words, he was doing a lot with almost no help. He had ~0 yards before contact at one point. His QB was the worst in the SEC and completed less than 50% of his passes. His Oline was arguably the worst in the SEC. Despite the complete dumpster fire that was the offense, he still managed 5.5 YPC and went in the 3rd round.
I highly doubt he will be commemorated as much as a Mason or maybe even Peyton Barber and Peyton didn’t do as much in college.
I don’t see what the fuss is all about.
Auburn fans are so used to our running backs going to the league that people call a guy going in the 3rd round with top 15 YAC "good" or "average", but if the rest of our team played at that level we would win a national championship. Tank was an elite collegiate back meaning ~top 10% of starting backs on good Division 1 teams.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 3:18 pm to ALhunter
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At one point last season Tank was 236th in yards before contact and 12th in yards after contact. In other words, he was doing a lot with almost no help. He had ~0 yards before contact at one point. His QB was the worst in the SEC and completed less than 50% of his passes. His Oline was arguably the worst in the SEC. Despite the complete dumpster fire that was the offense, he still managed 5.5 YPC and went in the 3rd round.
All of that and I still don’t hate the guy lol. I liked Jarquez better and he had the same OL and QB. What’s your deal?
quote:, I’m obviously not as captivated as you by the fact he went third round so I don’t feel the need to praise him anymore than he has earned. I think third round is appropriate for him and I knew he was this kind of a back as a freshman. What is more disappointing is he was kinda sold to be what Jahmyr Gibbs became with the hands. Mike Farrel said he had the best hands in camps and all of that, and he ultimately disappointed there. Well you see where Gibbs got drafted and where Tank got drafted.
Auburn fans are so used to our running backs going to the league that people call a guy going in the 3rd round with top 15 YAC "good" or "average", but if the rest of our team played at that level we would win a national championship.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:15 pm to jangalang
quote:Just gives me a chuckle seeing AU fans have difficulty parsing the performance of one elite player from an overall bad team, and being "disappointed" in a guy who was a top 10-15 back in CFB.
What’s your deal?
quote:Maybe that's the rub. Some people would call a top 100 draft pick elite and others wouldn't.
I think third round is appropriate for him
quote:OK so top 5 in CFB at your position and top 20 pick is elite in your mind that's fine.
Mike Farrel said he had the best hands in camps and all of that, and he ultimately disappointed there. Well you see where Gibbs got drafted and where Tank got drafted.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:24 pm to ALhunter
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Just gives me a chuckle seeing AU fans have difficulty parsing the performance of one elite player from an overall bad team
That’s not really it. I think his counterpart is better at RB. I also don’t think Tank is elite that much at anything.
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Maybe that's the rub. Some people would call a top 100 draft pick elite and others wouldn't.
I think a third round pick can easily be discarded. They are not proven. Tre Mason was pick number 75. He didn’t even earn a second year to prove himself.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:37 pm to jangalang
quote:OK we disagree on the definition of elite. I consider a top 10-15 player and top 100 draft pick elite, you don't.
I think a third round pick can easily be discarded.
By your definition we have had maybe 3-4 elite players going back to the 2010 class? D Ford, Robinson, D brown or something along those lines? That's fine.
Tre Mason went crazy. There are busts in every round of the draft but everyone picked in the first 3 rounds is either an elite college player or a developmental guy with elite measurables of some kind. Again, my definition of "elite" you can define it however you like.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:47 pm to ALhunter
Tre went crazy only after Rams stabbed him in the back by getting Gurley.
We haven’t had a whole lot of elite players. Kerryon wasn’t. Slayton wasn’t. There is a weakness that puts people in the third round.
We haven’t had a whole lot of elite players. Kerryon wasn’t. Slayton wasn’t. There is a weakness that puts people in the third round.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:00 pm to jangalang
quote:ALL-SEC, SEC Offensive player of the year, not elite
Kerryon wasn’t
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:23 pm to ChexMix
He was productive. So was CAP (1600 yards one season) and you won’t hear me call CAP elite.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:09 pm to jangalang
quote:Not personal. You just have an extremely high bar for "elite" which is fine... you're allowed to have it - it's just so high that it's a bit of a joke.
Here are stats proving that our next RB1 will make us forget about Tank...
Ya'll are making this too personal with the whole "stop being neutral, love him already!!" 15 year old fanboi mentality.
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Kerryon Johnson - AP second team All-American. SEC offensive POTY. First team All-SEC. Drafted in the second round... is not Bo Jackson reincarnated... not elite
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:13 pm to ALhunter
If Kerryon and Tank have to be “elite”
CAP is going up there too then.
Literally led the whole SEC in rushing like a fricking boss.
CAP is going up there too then.
Literally led the whole SEC in rushing like a fricking boss.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:26 pm to ALhunter
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Kerryon Johnson - AP second team All-American. SEC offensive POTY. First team All-SEC. Drafted in the second round... is not Bo Jackson reincarnated... not elite
Because he beat out Nick Chubb, a guy that shared the rock often does that mean he is better than Nick Chubb? Or better yet near that level? No
Is there like an ultra elite?
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:03 pm to ALhunter
Tank showed a lot of talent and potential as a freshman. He never got even an ounce better at AU. He’s a good back and could have a good pro career.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:25 pm to jvilletiger25
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Pappoe 5th Round
No way he goes that late.
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by jvilletiger25
Posted on 5/2/23 at 6:12 am to IAmNERD
There is no reason in throwing shade; Your takes are usually mind numbingly stupid as well.
I provided stats that show Tank isn’t even elite enough to be best on last year’s team. Is there a skill or an attribute that makes Tank elite?
Hunter had a better YAC and Broken Tackles percentage. Even if Tank is elite there there is no drop off.
I provided stats that show Tank isn’t even elite enough to be best on last year’s team. Is there a skill or an attribute that makes Tank elite?
Hunter had a better YAC and Broken Tackles percentage. Even if Tank is elite there there is no drop off.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 6:19 am
Posted on 5/2/23 at 6:48 am to IAmNERD
Was projected 3rd round, so what’s so funny?
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:54 am to jvilletiger25
Dane Brugler's Early 2024 Mock Draft (The Athletic):
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31. Philadelphia Eagles:
D.J. James, CB, Auburn
A former Oregon transfer, James was a pleasant surprise last season. He did a great job limiting big plays and will enter this season with an early-round projection.
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:17 am to jvilletiger25
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Was projected 3rd round, so what’s so funny?
I never saw that, but what's so funny is you're constantly wrong on evaluating football players. You're Gatewood fan club leadership cemented that a few years ago.
There was no way Pappoe was going to be anything but a day 3 pick. He could have moved into the 4th round because he is a camp drill all star, but the dude is tiny and didn't really produce in college.
Plus, I don't really care where he was projected. He went exactly where you said there was no chance he would.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 10:23 am
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