re: Auburn, Alabama, require vaccination all employees.

Agree on Saban. His eyes were on the threshold while Harsin is taking his stance on principle, but encouraging his players to make their own choice.

Bryan Matthews says people he talks to still believe Harsin isn’t vaccinated

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Yeah, I think it was unspoken but clear that Saban strong armed his players.

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That is what i'm getting at, you support this more than the steps you said he took. Auburn took those steps too, Harsin just isn't strong arming his players. If you think it is the right move for the coach to force his player's hands, that is fine and your opinion. I'll just disagree at every point.

Meemaw has always been pro vax and putting up a fight against the executive order as of today I imagine things get smoothed over and Harsin remains at Auburn vaccinated or not.

AG is already working on the state's suit of this. I think this will end up being nothing and will go away. I think the unions alone will inevitably squash this.

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I thought Nick Saban had a pretty good response to this (honestly like he does with most things). He brought in doctors, said it was a personal decision but also how it impacted the team and your potential ability to participate.

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That's exactly what Harsin did. There were multiple reports that doctors came in regularly and almost every time players came to the facility their lockers had information on the vaccine. And yes, the messaging from the doctors was very pro-vaccine.

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This is a complicated issue in a lot of ways, but honestly, if he won't take the shot, as required by his employer, he should probably leave. He could probably get another coaching gig, but not one as big as AU, at the moment.

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No one knows how he feels about the vaccine except that it is an individual's right to choose and they deserve privacy for that choice.

Even if he is not going to get the vaccine I would force them to fire me so that I can take it to a court, but I go back to the only thing you or anyone else knows is he is against making what people choose to do public.

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I thought Nick Saban had a pretty good response to this (honestly like he does with most things). He brought in doctors, said it was a personal decision but also how it impacted the team and your potential ability to participate.

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Plenty of documentation that Harsin did the same thing, but is sticking with it's a player and their families health decision, but has provided all the info and Dr's and others have addressed the team and available for them to contact. I like his approach as well.

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I would be very saddened by this. I like Harsin, but
if he feels strongly enough to accept the consequences

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Again, no one has any idea how he feels about taking the vaccine so there is no need for emotions to be expressed at this time. Take a tissue and dab those tears. Let's see how it all plays out.

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I tried to imagine the world where this is important for me to know and I just can't. I've never known the flu vaccination status of anyone, ever. Not one time in the entirety of my life have I ever inquired into someone's personal health status.

The degree of gov't overreach here should make everyone pause. The rush to forcibly vaccinate the healthiest among us for a virus to which they have an almost ZERO chance of hospitalization is shockingly reckless.

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Its comic book or 'Brave New World' dystopia. I'm still baffled every day, especially with Australia and New Zealand. I have some admittedly dark theories but no evidence, and sometimes these things can simply be explained with overreaction and herd theory. It seems more organized than something organic IMO but that's just my opinion. Get the shot or don't get the shot. If your risk profile and your own calculus tells you to get the shot, by all means. If not, same.

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No employee that is not vaccinated will be retained. Too much money involved. Harsin may have a religious exemption. Church of Christ scientist.

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There is no way Harsin just happens to be the one denomination that has historically declined vaccines.

Church of Christ is taught the Bible like Baptist (not Southern Baptist) without musical instruments of any kind. I grew up going to a Southern Baptist school but on Sundays Mom took us to the Church of Christ.