re: Auburn, Alabama, require vaccination all employees.

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So you actually do support the federal mandate. Stop lying then

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Not lying. I do realize the government has the power as they’ve always had for such a requirement.

Mostly, I just try to combat bad info when I have time. The talk of government overreach, etc is amusing to me.

The vitriol responses by people concerning this virus and this vaccine also come across as soft to me.

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So you do support the vaccine mandate then? You can say yes, it is okay. Not sure why you felt the necessity to lie.

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Not sure how recognizing the power to do something means support. Feels like a simple mind could think of a 100 things where a person might recognize the power to do it but not support it.

Example: I recognized Hardin’s right to not push the team to vaccinate but did not support it.

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Not sure how recognizing the power to do something means support

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You don't know how saying "good policy" means you support the policy?

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Stop being such a snowflake

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Such a childish remark.

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This is how America gets it done

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Corruption is OK in your book.

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It's about the money

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and power.

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The Pandemic is bad for the money.

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whose money? The rich are getting richer and the middle and lower class are paying the price.

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The rich are getting richer and the middle and lower class are paying the price.

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On this we can agree.

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Both things you said are not correct. The vaccine reduces transmission rates which will always slow the spread.

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This statement is only true if you don't consider any other possible outcomes/scenarios:

#1: This is a "leaky" vaccine. It doesn't guarantee immunity and it doesn't prevent you from spreading the virus. This means that the vaccine presents the perfect environment for mutations to emerge because it gives the virus the perfect "training" environment to create new mutations. Viruses don't mutate unless they are stressed to do so - a leaky vaccine creates that environment. This was repeated ad nauseum by "experts" like Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche who repeatedly tried to explain how mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic was a colossal mistake. And what do you know? You're seeing massive spikes in cases all around the world in places that are 90%+ vaccinated - clearly through variants that have adapted to slip past your vaccine-induced protection. Enabling mutations does NOT "slow the spread". And no, the unvaccinated are NOT creating mutations (why would a virus need to mutate in order to infect someone that hasn't been vaccinated?)

#2: The vaccine actually PROMOTES spread through an obvious social mechanism: because it is ineffective in actually eliminating the spread of the virus WHILE being fairly effective in terms of eliminating one's "serious symptoms" while infected, it creates a false sense of security and carelessness. A person who is unvaccinated and who gets COVID is likely to get "sick" to some degree. This means that they will rationally self-isolate - like people were doing for months long before any vaccine was available. On the other hand, someone who is double vaccinated can VERY easily be carrying the virus - but while being asymptomatic (because the vaccine "is working") or experiencing only mild symptoms. What does that person do? They go to work and the grocery store and interact with their friends and families as if everything was normal. But they're infectious. Do you comprehend how this is a problem? Do you perhaps see how this probably plays a significant role in all these areas where 90%+ are vaccinated, but magically the virus is still breaking out?

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This statement is only true if you don't consider any other possible outcomes/scenarios:

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The statement isn't correct because I never said it doesn't reduce transmission or slow the spread. At any point.

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So I guess we find out in December whether we still have a coach

God that would suck. Have a coach seemingly improving the program only to have him terminated for this…

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Well, then to add onto that * if * they do update what fully vaxx'd means at some point in the future based on the need for boosters from what it being shown on the over 6 month efficacy of them, then the policy just goes out the window . New deadline or fired, and so on and so forth.

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Well, then to add onto that * if * they do update what fully vaxx'd means at some point in the future based on the need for boosters from what it being shown on the over 6 month efficacy of them, then the policy just goes out the window . New deadline or fired, and so on and so forth.

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This is a very good point that will be problematic in the future. At the very least I suspect the 3rd shot would eventually be the "medical" standard for immune. (if that is possible) The data suggest that a 3rd shot is what it takes to move from Pandemic too Endemic at this point.

In time I also suspect the data to fully reveal infection plus some level of vaccination to be immune as well.

As both administrations have struggled with matching politics to science isn't an easy needle to thread.

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So I guess we find out in December whether we still have a coach

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This is a complicated issue in a lot of ways, but honestly, if he won't take the shot, as required by his employer, he should probably leave. He could probably get another coaching gig, but not one as big as AU, at the moment.

I thought Nick Saban had a pretty good response to this (honestly like he does with most things). He brought in doctors, said it was a personal decision but also how it impacted the team and your potential ability to participate. Low and behold they hit 90% so there was no additional testing at Alabama.

I would be very saddened by this. I like Harsin, but
if he feels strongly enough to accept the consequences I would support him and think no less of him for standing by his principles.



I would be somewhat less upset if we backed the money truck up to Oxford to get Lane.