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re: Auburn, Alabama, require vaccination all employees.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:12 pm to weagle99
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:12 pm to weagle99
We can complain about tax policy or whatever in this thread, but the fact is Auburn gets a whole lot of funding from federal contracts. Those contracts help students get jobs after college, keep professors employed doing research, and support local Auburn businesses that work for those larger contracts. And in several cases it supports national security or related issues.
To ask the university to sacrifice all of that for a football coach is beyond asinine and demonstrates a clear lack of understanding of how any of this works.
People want to complain about players making money because "it's a free education" but when it gets inconvenient everyone wants to forget that Auburn is a school first and an athletic brand second.
To ask the university to sacrifice all of that for a football coach is beyond asinine and demonstrates a clear lack of understanding of how any of this works.
People want to complain about players making money because "it's a free education" but when it gets inconvenient everyone wants to forget that Auburn is a school first and an athletic brand second.
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:16 pm to AUEE13
It also helps recruit top teachers and students.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:16 pm to weagle99
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Highway money is the perfect example of this. Remember when Feds held money hostage over the drinking age?
That was a real cluster. Which state was the last to give in, Louisiana? I seem to remember they worked out a loophole where once you got in a club you could drink at 18.
I remember in South Alabama, we couldn't drink anyway even though the law was 19 because we were in a dry county. However, we could cross into Florida and drink at 18 so it worked out.
I know it is a lost cause now, but I still thought the logic that if you are old enough to be drafted and to vote you should be old enough to drink.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:24 pm to Tigerman97
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Explain...it isn't what I said.
You brought up Pat Dye morality in comparison to the morality of the Covid mandate as if there is any comparison whatsoever. Is that right stumpfan
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:25 pm to attalla
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Not true. Any research institute would have to comply if u have any federal contracts. Just get the damn thing and be done with it
It’s not the Tuskegee research project
How is it not true? The school has said themselves that they are doing it due to the threat of losing federal funding. It's forced.
Yes they have the final call. But they are spineless.
This isn't about the efficiency of a vaccine. It's about the choice and freedom to choose to be free of the government imposing it's will on people.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:26 pm to attalla
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Any research institute would have to comply if u have any federal contracts. Just get the damn thing and be done with it
It’s not the Tuskegee research project
You’re a sheep
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:26 pm to ChexMix
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when money > morals, time to find another University to cheer for
Hot take to suggest that Harsin is more important than our ROTC program, professors whose research rely on federal grants or students who can only attend AU through federal loans/grants.
If this mandate isn't overturned, hard to see a good argument that the moral thing is screwing over the entire University and people/city that rely on its success
So if you are suggesting Auburn should choose someone's right for "employment status" why aren't we considering all the rights of the AU people who likely lose their jobs in inevitable budget cuts / bankrupt programs?
Auburn doesn't get to choose if the mandate is upheld, we do get to choose how to respond with what's best for our community. I sure hope we make the right decision
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:28 pm to jangalang
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You brought up Pat Dye morality in comparison to the morality of the Covid mandate as if there is any comparison whatsoever. Is that right stumpfan
I guess my experience is that morality and college athletics don't really go hand and hand.
I didn't realize people thought Coach Dye was a moral example for us all. A great man, a great coach in my mind. I certainly was just thinking in general. When I hear Dabo talk I always think, "how much is he turning a blind eye to for the sake of winning?" but he loves to talk morality.
At the end of the day I never believed Coach was trying to pretend to be a moral example, but he was a hell of a football coach.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:35 pm to allin2010
it seemed we had a lot of support for big government interventionism into our lives regarding COVID at the onset, and well, people got what they wanted I guess. Hard to put that genie back in the bottle.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:42 pm to GenesChin
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Hot take to suggest that Harsin is more important
How short sighted you must be.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:42 pm to Ross
I still think Harsin ends up okay. He isn’t like the Washington State coach (that sucked) in liberal country.
Ivey will make sure he gets a religious exemption if Harsin doesn’t put the distraction down himself.
Ivey will make sure he gets a religious exemption if Harsin doesn’t put the distraction down himself.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:49 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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How short sighted you must be.
I really like Harsin but not a $200m bet on it
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:50 pm to jangalang
I think people are making Harsin a bigger deal than it needs to be. Nothing he has done or said suggests he is anti vaccine.
It’s also short sighted for posters to suggest that the only pushback from other Aubies is over protecting Harsin. It is far bigger than him, but they just can’t grasp what that is. It’s amazing to watch and read.
It’s also short sighted for posters to suggest that the only pushback from other Aubies is over protecting Harsin. It is far bigger than him, but they just can’t grasp what that is. It’s amazing to watch and read.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:52 pm to GenesChin
The pushback has nothing to do with Harsin. 
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:54 pm to GenesChin
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I really like Harsin but not a $200m bet on it
What I don't understand is why people think Harsin won't simply go get vaccinated like the other 99% of people who's place of employment required it? He doesn't seem dumb.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:56 pm to Tigerman97
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What I don't understand is why people think Harsin won't simply go get vaccinated like the other 99% of people who's place of employment required it? He doesn't seem dumb.
lol, you obviously have no clue what people are really doing. If he’s not dumb he will tell them to f*ck off.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:57 pm to Tigerman97
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What I don't understand is why people think Harsin won't simply go get vaccinated like the other 99% of people who's place of employment required it? He doesn't seem dumb.
I do you know he hasn’t?
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:57 pm to Tigerman97
It would be the most Auburn thing if we win out and Harsin gets canned
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:04 pm to dehsloot
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lol, you obviously have no clue what people are really doing. If he’s not dumb he will tell them to f*ck off.
Mandates Are Working to Increase Vaccinations
It's a few weeks old but the data is solid.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:09 pm to mckibaj
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I do you know he hasn’t?
I don't know.
He may be.
He may have real concerns about sharing this type of info.
He may have real concerns about the vaccine.
But what I see day in and day out is people with ideological concerns that choose to ignore basic science...that choice is killing people every day. It's why you can't find a single controversial post from me on this board that isn't vaccine related. I, based on experience believe he fits my perspective of that type of individual. If I'm wrong I'll happily admit it. I already can see I might have been wrong about his ability to lead a team. I will be extremely happy if I'm wrong about that and this.
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