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Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:24 am to ThaiTiger24
I tried to support him like I would any coach but it's painfully obvious things are not working out.
I also talked to Coach Mason at the CarWash and when he said he loved Auburn, it was a special place but he was not a good fit with the staff (in the nicest way possible) I knew something was up.
I still like Coach Harsin, but he doesn't seem to be right for Auburn.
WDE!!!
I also talked to Coach Mason at the CarWash and when he said he loved Auburn, it was a special place but he was not a good fit with the staff (in the nicest way possible) I knew something was up.
I still like Coach Harsin, but he doesn't seem to be right for Auburn.
WDE!!!
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:49 am to ThaiTiger24
I was tired of Gus as he wouldn't change and our line play sucked on offense. He lost his edge and wouldn't innovate.
I didn't know Harsin but decided to give him a chance...I sure didn't like his OC/DC choices when he was hired.
I didn't like loosing like we did last year.
I didn't like what happened in Feb because if you are going to do that then you better well fire the person and take the hit or else we have a S**t show like we have now. After the embarrassing loss vs Pedo State...time to go...
I saw no adjustments being made to the blitz. I saw poor QB management, etc...
As for who to replace? Who would want to come here? We need someone who is very organized and will build a great staff like Pittman did at Arky. That is the way we win and compete for championships. We don't need a gimmic O again.
Good recruiters & developers and with that we would be competitive. The Head coach needs to be personable.
I didn't know Harsin but decided to give him a chance...I sure didn't like his OC/DC choices when he was hired.
I didn't like loosing like we did last year.
I didn't like what happened in Feb because if you are going to do that then you better well fire the person and take the hit or else we have a S**t show like we have now. After the embarrassing loss vs Pedo State...time to go...
I saw no adjustments being made to the blitz. I saw poor QB management, etc...
As for who to replace? Who would want to come here? We need someone who is very organized and will build a great staff like Pittman did at Arky. That is the way we win and compete for championships. We don't need a gimmic O again.
Good recruiters & developers and with that we would be competitive. The Head coach needs to be personable.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:47 am to ThaiTiger24
Meh - if you don't support any new incoming coach I'd call that more shameful even if you disagree with the hire...
If we hired Coach O, for example, I'm not going to agree with that move but I'm going to pull for him and Auburn to be successful
If we hired Coach O, for example, I'm not going to agree with that move but I'm going to pull for him and Auburn to be successful
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:24 pm to TailbackU
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We are so dysfunctional and, aside from the get-rich-quick scheme it has become, I don’t see a legit long term coach wanting to come here in our current state of dysfunction.
You would think that an Auburn fan would know better than to put this nonsense out there. Of the past 5 coaches, all, but 2 (assuming Harsin is fired) have gotten at least EIGHT YEARS. That's not exactly "get rich quick" in college football terms.
The two that have been fired (again, assuming Harsin is) have proven that their ego comes before everything. Harsin not Chizik know how to manage people. It fell apart off the field first for Chiz and Harsin looks to be following the same pattern.
Oh, but he didn't get admin and booster support? So what. Cry me a river. This is a big boy job making big boy money. Tuberville dealt with JetGate and came back with an undefeated season to stick it to those who tried to subvert him. Gus heard every AU fan in America calling for his job in 2016-2017 and went out and got to Atlanta. I'm sorry that I'm not sorry that Harsin was "attacked" in the off-season. But he's paid handsomely to disregard that shite and win football games.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:27 pm to IAmNERD
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who tried to subvert him.
But the dysfunction doesn't exist, amirite?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:35 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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But the dysfunction doesn't exist, amirite?
Does it?
Is there really any doubt who calls the shots? Two similar situations, perception wise, over 20 years. But everyone and their brother claims Auburn runs coaches off at the highest clip in the country.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:45 pm to IAmNERD
I thought the hire was good at face value but did understand the cultural differences. I began to notice early last summer he wasn’t doing much in the recruiting portion. At first I chalked it up to he was trying to really coach the team he had for last season. But the dire recruiting seemed to continue on and on and then we finished with a well below par class and to top it off a losing record and how bad we looked the second half of the season. Since then has been coaching miscue and mistakes after another. I don’t think he will make it but if he can make it to UGA with only 1 loss then it may buy him until the end of the season. If he loses this weekend and next weekend… ummm not good
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:47 pm to BigTastey
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BigTastey
So what did Mason tell the BOT? That Harsin's recruiting board was color-coded? Is this a joke? Was there something else?
Not sure why you couldn't reveal it if you really know. If any of it is true, there are probably hundreds of people in the athletic dept who know this story by now.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:55 pm to IAmNERD
I think you may be confusing things. If people are saying HC are being run off at a high rate that would be incorrect.
My opinion is we are not aligned in purpose from Auburn President, Boosters, AD, to HC. Why is it? I don't know, but there seems to be a level of dysfunction that exists. A couple of candidates for the job have said as much, do we just dismiss the comments as sour grapes? I don't, because it's easy to see.
For Auburn to be consistently successful it will take being in sync by those four groups. How do we get there? How do we get to that level of cooperation that Uga, Bama, Clemson, OSU, etc. all have? I don't have the answer to that, but I know we have a level of dysfunction that stops us from getting there.
If we all just want to disregard it, then let's just move on and watch which coach we fire next time with a big payoff. Let's watch as year after year and we still cannot compete with our rivals consistently. Everyone says they don't want status quo, but that is all we are seeing and worse. I say it's because there is dysfunction and not just because of the HC we bring in. Does Auburn keep firing HC's at a high rate? Maybe not, but the payoffs sure do keep piling up.
My opinion is we are not aligned in purpose from Auburn President, Boosters, AD, to HC. Why is it? I don't know, but there seems to be a level of dysfunction that exists. A couple of candidates for the job have said as much, do we just dismiss the comments as sour grapes? I don't, because it's easy to see.
For Auburn to be consistently successful it will take being in sync by those four groups. How do we get there? How do we get to that level of cooperation that Uga, Bama, Clemson, OSU, etc. all have? I don't have the answer to that, but I know we have a level of dysfunction that stops us from getting there.
If we all just want to disregard it, then let's just move on and watch which coach we fire next time with a big payoff. Let's watch as year after year and we still cannot compete with our rivals consistently. Everyone says they don't want status quo, but that is all we are seeing and worse. I say it's because there is dysfunction and not just because of the HC we bring in. Does Auburn keep firing HC's at a high rate? Maybe not, but the payoffs sure do keep piling up.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:57 pm to PrisonMike
quote:this
So what did Mason tell the BOT? That Harsin's recruiting board was color-coded? Is this a joke? Was there something else? Not sure why you couldn't reveal it if you really know. If any of it is true, there are probably hundreds of people in the athletic dept who know this story by now.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:07 pm to 2010champs
quote:if that is actually what happened, we can deduce two things:
I heard on good authority that his recruiting board was color coded and the top recruits were in the black column, and openly referred to as “Black Guys” by Harsin, Uscher, etc. in meetings. i.e. “we’ve heard enough about the blue guys, what black guys do we have coming this weekend?”
1)Harsin and staff are pretty tone deaf when it comes to race and the South
2) Mason is s fricking moron if that’s his rationale for quitting.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:11 pm to LanierSpots
quote:I don’t like it.
Most here and at Auburn overvalue the Auburn job. It is not the storybook landing that some want it to be. There are issues. There have always been issues and they will continue due to its small little brother kind of attitude. Like it or not
But it’s true.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:29 pm to LanierSpots
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Most here and at Auburn overvalue the Auburn job. It is not the storybook landing that some want it to be. There are issues. There have always been issues and they will continue due to its small little brother kind of attitude. Like it or not
Yep, agreed
You also said real early on the fit was wrong with Harsin. I was open to something different and he has enjoyed some decent success. I underestimated his stance that he can get the right recruits to succeed. You can only go so far with a bunch of “cultured” three stars. I thought he would evolve in the recruiting and he hasn’t at all and his portal game is weak. That’s a. Recipe for suck.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:59 pm to ThaiTiger24
I was one of the first off the bandwagon. I’m always willing to give a new coach a chance, but it has really spiraled out of control since the meltdown against MSU.
The nail in the coffin was him being too big of a pussy to go for two against Alabama.
Also, there has been way more negative than positive in his tenure.
I hope it ends soon and Auburn moves on. He’s definitely the worst Auburn HC in my lifetime.
The nail in the coffin was him being too big of a pussy to go for two against Alabama.
Also, there has been way more negative than positive in his tenure.
I hope it ends soon and Auburn moves on. He’s definitely the worst Auburn HC in my lifetime.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:16 pm to TTsTowel
Nah there were others first off the wagon just wasnt calling for a firing yet. I was off pretty much after Penn State last year and the recruiting.
Lanier and I both said be careful what you wish for even before we let Gus go.
There was a couple folks that were hell naw on Harsin before a game was played just can’t remember who they were.
Lanier and I both said be careful what you wish for even before we let Gus go.
There was a couple folks that were hell naw on Harsin before a game was played just can’t remember who they were.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:24 pm to CorchJay
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There was a couple folks that were hell naw on Harsin before a game was played just can’t remember who they were.
Lanier was one of them
I don’t think any of that matters as to whom was first or second or etc. I was off after last game. It took me a lot longer for Gus. We all get in and off the HC coach wagon but yet here we are, talking about another change, another payoff, more time for the program to find footing.
Fans on or off a wagon and when doesn’t change the fact we are in a dumpster fire once again. There is a bigger issue at hand and we keep repeating the same results.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:25 pm to CorchJay
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There was a couple folks that were hell naw on Harsin before a game was played just can’t remember who they were.
Present and accounted for!!!
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:28 pm to ThaiTiger24
I absolutely supported him through the rumors of the young lady.
His laziness in getting to know local coaches and recruiting, his lack of game adjustments, and him acting like a child is press conferences has pushed me over the edge.
I’m convinced this man is over his head.
His laziness in getting to know local coaches and recruiting, his lack of game adjustments, and him acting like a child is press conferences has pushed me over the edge.
I’m convinced this man is over his head.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:34 pm to CorchJay
I was never on Harsin bandwagon so I never got off of it. He had to prove himself first.
Thai wasn’t talking about the fans that supported him early. He was talking about the fans that cried in February. Or MrAuTigers “our stupidity is going to run off a good coach.”
Thai wasn’t talking about the fans that supported him early. He was talking about the fans that cried in February. Or MrAuTigers “our stupidity is going to run off a good coach.”
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