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Are the Hawks the worst organization in U.S. sports?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 6:00 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 6:00 am
I can’t think of another that is worse over the last 50 years.
Maybe the Browns. But at least they have notoriety.
Maybe the Browns. But at least they have notoriety.
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 7:55 am to Tigertown in ATL
If you think the Hawks are anywhere close to the Browns for incompetence, you haven't been paying much attention.
The Hawks won 60 games and were in the ECF 3 years. The Browns literally haven't won a playoff game since the 90's.
The Hawks won 60 games and were in the ECF 3 years. The Browns literally haven't won a playoff game since the 90's.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:08 am to Tigertown in ATL
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notoriety
Yes, for being trash.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:26 am to Tigertown in ATL
The Hawks won the Eastern Conference just 3 years ago. Made a deep playoff run that year too but lost to Cleveland and Lebron in the conference finals. So, no to answer your question.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:36 am to RunLindsayRun
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Yes, for being trash.
I understand, but the Hawks are almost never talked about. No one cares about them. And getting dominated in the playoffs is hardly indicative of any success.
It's a shite organization and always has been.
Since being better than the Browns is somehow an accomplishment, how about second worst.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:43 am to Tigertown in ATL
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I understand, but the Hawks are almost never talked about.
Who cares if the national media talks about them? They were a really well run organization until they fired Danny Ferry for some really stupid shite.
To answer your original question, the Browns are far, far more incompetent than any other organization in North American sports.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:53 am to Tigertown in ATL
quote:No, but you also have to think about who some of the Hawks playoff teams have lost to.
And getting dominated in the playoffs is hardly indicative of any success.
The most recent teams have been knocked out by the Cavs with Lebron.
Back in the mid to late 80s, the teams with Dominique, Spud Webb, Kevin Willis, etc. made it to the conference semis three years in a row, only to run into the Celtics team with Bird, Ainge, Parish and McHale (twice) and Detroit with Thomas, Dumars, Laimbeer and Rodman. I mean it isn't like they were getting ko'd by a group of nobodies. Those are some pretty good teams that knocked them out.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:00 am to Tigertown in ATL
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It's a shite organization and always has been.
Salty are we? Golden State was next to nothing a few years ago and now look at them. The Hawks are worth about $1.2 billion and generated about $200 million in revenue this year. Far from being shite. Yeah, it'd be nice to get a Lebron or Curry, but those guys don't come around often. Phillips Arena is also under a massive $193 million dollar upgrade. I think the future is bright for the Hawks with a good draft pick and a lot of salary cap space.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:09 am to VADawg
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were a really well run organization until they fired Danny Ferry
Yes, but that is sort of the point. The have always done stupid things.
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pretty good teams that knocked them out.
Fair points.
But still, conference semis is not a very high level of achievement.
So new list:
1. Browns
2. Clippers
3. Hawks
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:11 am to Tigertown in ATL
Marlins belong on that list. Derek Jeter basically turned them into the Yankees AAA team with the absurd Stanton trade.
Also, that list should look more like
1. Browns
2. Clippers
The Browns had the #1 and #4 picks in the draft and managed to frick them both up
Also, that list should look more like
1. Browns
2. Clippers
The Browns had the #1 and #4 picks in the draft and managed to frick them both up
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:15 am to VADawg
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Marlins
They did win 2 World Series, so I'd probably put them ahead of both the Falcons, Saints and Bengals.
As an aside, I thank you all for making this a discussion and not some contentious crapshow.
I've been in ATL since 1981, so I am fully invested and not doing this thread simply to bash on the Hawks. It's really born out of frustration for all of Atlanta sports.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:16 am to VADawg
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he Browns had the #1 and #4 picks in the draft and managed to frick them both up
We will see.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:16 am to Tigertown in ATL
So now it's based on wins and championships? I can think of quite a few that have sucked for a really long time:
Detroit Lions
Arizona Cardinals
Buffalo Bills
Toronto Raptors
Sacrmnto Kings
NY Jets
San Diego Padres
Mets
Timberwolves
In sure there's some hockey teams in there but I don't keep up with it.
Detroit Lions
Arizona Cardinals
Buffalo Bills
Toronto Raptors
Sacrmnto Kings
NY Jets
San Diego Padres
Mets
Timberwolves
In sure there's some hockey teams in there but I don't keep up with it.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:26 am to Rhino5
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Detroit Lions
Arizona Cardinals
Buffalo Bills
Toronto Raptors
Sacrmnto Kings
NY Jets
San Diego Padres
Mets
Timberwolves
Good list.
Bills better than Falcons. 4 Super Bowl losses vs. 2.
Not sure I'd put the Timberwolves and Raptors there until they have a longer history.
Lions is a good one. Kings also.
Hockey: Buffalo Sabres would be one
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:37 am to Rhino5
Detroit Lions
Arizona Cardinals
Buffalo Bills
Toronto Raptors
Sacramento Kings
NY Jets
San Diego Padres
Mets
Timberwolves
Saints
Arizona Cardinals
Buffalo Bills
Toronto Raptors
Sacramento Kings
NY Jets
San Diego Padres
Mets
Timberwolves
Saints
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 9:38 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:46 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
nice Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:19 pm to Rhino5
You left off the Phoenix Coyotes, the most forgettable franchise in major sports
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:38 am to Tigertown in ATL
No, not even close. They aren't even close to the worst organization in the NBA.
The Hawks have been to the playoffs 33 of the 50 years they were in Atlanta, including 10 in a row before a self imposed tank this season. They had "solid" runs from 1968-1973, 1978-1999 and then 2008-2017.
Now, like most Atlanta teams, they've done an incredibly job of consistently being pretty good and NEVER finding a way to climb to the top of the mountain. So maybe the most frustrating/annoying, but definitely not the worst.
The Hawks have been to the playoffs 33 of the 50 years they were in Atlanta, including 10 in a row before a self imposed tank this season. They had "solid" runs from 1968-1973, 1978-1999 and then 2008-2017.
Now, like most Atlanta teams, they've done an incredibly job of consistently being pretty good and NEVER finding a way to climb to the top of the mountain. So maybe the most frustrating/annoying, but definitely not the worst.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:20 pm to Rhino5
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The Hawks won the Eastern Conference just 3 years ago
That's not true. They were the #1 seed, but they're not hanging a banner saying Eastern Conference Champions.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 12:31 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Browns have averaged something like 3 or 4 wins over last 15 years.
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