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Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26400 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:01 pm
Had a turnover, missed the last shot, and his man scored the go-ahead basket. Damn. It was tough to watch.

The kid may be able to block shots, but he shouldn't be on the floor in crunch time...ever. I thought Muss figured this out 2 weeks ago.
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:03 pm to
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I thought Muss figured this out 2 weeks ago.


I'm pretty sure Jaylin had an issue but its time to just have Henderson out there or go small at this point.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8727 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:04 pm to
At a certain point I can't even blame Vanover. That's on Muss for putting him in that position
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:07 pm to
Don’t worry, I’m sure Vanover will have a great practice to make up for it.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20465 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:08 pm to
I want to know where Sills was most of the game.
Posted by OSqueal
Member since Jan 2011
5960 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:08 pm to
Dont put this all on Vanover. I saw a dozen stupid arse turnovers that cost us the game. We made some great passes to OSU.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8089 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:09 pm to
He was wide open and that's his shot. He has played well overall the last couple of games. Not that it was a great option but nobody else was open at all that I saw. Maybe Muss felt he earned it and imagine the boost to the kids confidence if he hits it.

There were 20 other shite plays by other players on the team that cost us points so I'm not really gonna lump this on Vanover.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8089 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:11 pm to
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I want to know where Sills was most of the game

I wonder if he was still not 100% after that belly flop he did on Wed. Has to be. No reason one of your team leaders shouldn't be on the floor at the end of the game.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3429 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:29 pm to
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I'm pretty sure Jaylin had an issue but its time to just have Henderson out there or go small at this point.



This. Like it or not he's our 3rd best post player. If Williams or Smith go down he's the best option.

The refs were letting them go at it under the rim. Thats a bad thing for twigs.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8914 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:41 pm to
Tate had 2 missed layups, and 3 shite passes picked off within what seemed 5m.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:44 pm to
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Like it or not he's our 3rd best post player. If Williams or Smith go down he's the best option.



And we have enough scoring in general that we really are not hurt that much by Henderson on the offensive side of the ball. He will be there for put backs or ally oops (pretty much what Vanover already does). He is also going to be better on the defensive side overall and can run with the team more.
Posted by Beached Tusky
Member since Oct 2016
1874 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:59 pm to
Henderson can't be a worse basketball player than some of the guys OSU had on the court tonight, but he's a hell of a lot better athlete than Vanover.

Vanover was an absolute liability. An all-guard team would have probably fared better.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18825 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 9:09 am to
His man scored the go ahead basket? He was guarding Cunningham?

That was Devo. And he couldn’t have guarded it any better than he did. Guy just made a play.

We’re just an average bubble team once again that can’t win when it counts.

Same story it’s been for the last 25 years minus the Pelphrey blunder.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43517 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 9:27 am to
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Henderson can't be a worse basketball player than some of the guys OSU had on the court tonight, but he's a hell of a lot better athlete than Vanover.

Vanover was an absolute liability. An all-guard team would have probably fared better.



Henderson has been out of position defensively (the little he's been on the court) same as previous years, he appears to have to think about what to do, where he should be, etc instead of just playing and reacting.

On the other hand Vanover is just as often out of position because he physically can't stay in position, he seems to play with his eyes closed once inside the paint.

At some point, tho, you have to at least try working Henderson into the rotation, right? Maybe give him more than a couple minutes and first mistake before putting him back on the bench?
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:34 pm to
What killed us was OK St having 3 attempts to score the go ahead basket.
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