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re: Pitman will be on the hot seat after 2 and gone after 3
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:28 am to The Sultan of Swine
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:28 am to The Sultan of Swine
I imagine he will get one more year after this year.
If there isn't some serious changes we will move on.
I'll always believe that our football program could achieve much more than average. Petrino gave us a glimpse and he/we threw it all away.
If there isn't some serious changes we will move on.
I'll always believe that our football program could achieve much more than average. Petrino gave us a glimpse and he/we threw it all away.
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:05 pm to razorbackfan4life
Is 9-4, 7-5 and say, 5-7 really enough to fire a coach here given what he inherited?
I look at guys like Dave Clawson and Doeren and they were terrible to mediocre their first 4 years at Wake Forest and NC State, then it took them to year 6 or 8 to have their best teams. Wake Forest won 11 games last year and has another top 20 team this year. It took Stoops a while to get Kentucky to this level too.
Some fanbases expect to just keep increasing the win total every single year and that’s not always realistic. If we have a string of bad seasons in a row or go 2-10 again then sure.
I look at guys like Dave Clawson and Doeren and they were terrible to mediocre their first 4 years at Wake Forest and NC State, then it took them to year 6 or 8 to have their best teams. Wake Forest won 11 games last year and has another top 20 team this year. It took Stoops a while to get Kentucky to this level too.
Some fanbases expect to just keep increasing the win total every single year and that’s not always realistic. If we have a string of bad seasons in a row or go 2-10 again then sure.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:14 pm to razorbackfan4life
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If there isn't some serious changes we will move on.
get a grip
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:07 pm to razorbackfan4life
Ohhh God, we have a portion of you going to overreact aren't we?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:41 pm to LittleRockHog501
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Ohhh God, we have a portion of you going to overreact aren't we?
Nah. Talking about getting rid of coaches who took us from what can be kindly described as a raging dumpster fire to respectable in 12 months is totally reasonable. The fact we haven't won a title in the last two seasons is unforgivable and must be addressed. We don't even have a Heisman candidate this year. Pathetic.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 4:28 pm to V Bainbridge
some folks don't get sarcasm brah! 
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:56 pm to Razorback Reverend
I think it's fair for us to be pissed after the last 2 weeks without wanting our HC fired. But shite like yesterday is unacceptable in year 3. We didn't show any fight until right before halftime. Then we showed we could play tough for 1 quarter and then they laid down in the 4th. Bama is good, but we shouldn't have played that bad.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 7:37 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
We lost to Alabama pretty badly in 2011 and that was a much better Arkansas team
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:35 pm to Porcine Human
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get a grip
You think we wont make a change if our record ends up worse 2 years in a row?
That's not something to be excited about.
Keep in mind, Sam could turn this season around and have a good season the following year.
I just can't imagine us keeping him if we decline back to back years.
Nothing I've said is outlandish or calling for the mans firing. I just can't see under any circumstance we would keep him if this year is a dud, and next year is even worse.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:18 pm to razorbackfan4life
pittman needs 5 years without something very catastrophic happening.
I look back at folks like Iowa with Ferentz, Clemson with Dabo, among others and think we need to settle down a bit with this idea of replacing Sam so quickly
I look back at folks like Iowa with Ferentz, Clemson with Dabo, among others and think we need to settle down a bit with this idea of replacing Sam so quickly
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:46 pm to razorbackfan4life
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You think we wont make a change if our record ends up worse 2 years in a row?
I don’t think we will change the HC and we probably shouldn’t, unless it’s Matt Rhule.
But we will be changing coordinators because that happens usually after 3-4 years no matter what.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:20 pm to razorbackfan4life
That depends on the results of those seasons. If he goes 2-10 and 3-9 then yes but if they are 6-6 and 5-7 then no.
It isn't something to be excited about but rebuilding years are sometimes erratic and patience is badly needed for this program.
You have to keep in mind that last year was a combination of doing better than expected in the portal, having a good group of super seniors, a first round draft pick in Burks and getting very fortunate in some close games that could easily be losses. That team was closer to being 6-6 than 10-2 but they overachieved.
This team looks closer to what they are and should be. This team isn't as good as last year but that doesn't mean it will be a Chad Morris year.
It isn't something to be excited about but rebuilding years are sometimes erratic and patience is badly needed for this program.
You have to keep in mind that last year was a combination of doing better than expected in the portal, having a good group of super seniors, a first round draft pick in Burks and getting very fortunate in some close games that could easily be losses. That team was closer to being 6-6 than 10-2 but they overachieved.
This team looks closer to what they are and should be. This team isn't as good as last year but that doesn't mean it will be a Chad Morris year.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:27 pm to FayetteNAM
Both coordinators are getting close to either taking a shite or get off the pot.
They get one more year and they find the same positions somewhere else.
They get one more year and they find the same positions somewhere else.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:29 pm to dchog
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But we will be changing coordinators because that happens usually after 3-4 years no matter what.
CBS teased Odom as a candidate for the Colorado job, then admitted we have a horrible defense and he crashed a decent program that Pinkel had built.
I’ve got no hopes of him leaving.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:32 pm to Razorback Reverend
Replacing Sam in the third, fourth or fifth years would seal this program as an SEC bottom feeder for the rest of our days.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:33 pm to dchog
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Both coordinators are getting close to either taking a shite or get off the pot. They get one more year and they find the same positions somewhere else.
Barry is rumored to be linked to Colorado or they are looking at him or he made their preliminary list.
So I say at least one if not both will be gone after this year. Everyone wanted to see Briles in one spot for awhile, 3 years is about as good as it gets for any big time coordinator so I bet he is gone too.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:36 pm to beebefootballfan
He will eventually leave sooner or later. He isn't head coaching material and would take a DC position at a another program.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:42 pm to FayetteNAM
If both leave then no better time would be after this year.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 5:03 am to dchog
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It isn't something to be excited about but rebuilding years are sometimes erratic and patience is badly needed for this program
Oh, I'm fully aware of that. And I like Sam over all, as do most of the players. He made the fan base proud after what we've endured prior to his arrival. Hopefully he can recruit some better talent for the future.
IMO Arkansas can be a great program. We have our limitations with instate recruiting, but we have the money, resources, and fan support to take that next step.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 5:05 am to dchog
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If both leave then no better time would be after this year.
Yea, it sucks because I honestly like both of them, but the product on the field leaves you scratching your head sometimes.
Will be hard for Sam to lose both coordinators all of a sudden because he seems to enjoy/trust both of them.
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