re: Matt Campbell - is now the time and would we want him?

He did. Don’t let anyone tell you different. Both parties were at fault.

2006 could have been a BCS NC or at least appearance.

But you had too many egos all about themselves to allow it to happen.

One of the greatest lies about Gus is that he adapts to his players and runs a wide open offense.

He's still running the same read/option offense that everyone else quit using 10 years ago.

But hey if you have a Darren McFadden or a cam newton it will work. Guys like that are easy to find.

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nd I think it’s likely he could field a team that could average 7 wins a year with a 9 win year every 4 years or so.

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We've been in desperate need of a reality check in the not-too-distant past, but we should examine this. Going 8–4 would be winning our four OoC games, and then going 4–4 in conference. We should expect to lose an OoC game sometimes when we have a really tough one lined up, like the canceled Notre Dame game for 2020, and we should expect to do better than 4–4 in conference sometimes, and worse other times. But the bottom line is 8–4 with a chance for 9 in a bowl should really be the expectation. That's essentially saying, on average beat three, sometimes four cupcakes, and then win every other conference game.

What you're saying is worse than the results we wanted Nutt gone for, and almost what Bielema and Pittman have gotten us. Sam's been here four years. His first year was recovering from the previous three years of unmitigated disaster, plus playing a ten game conference schedule. His 3–7 that year would have been 6–6 before the bowl most other years. Then he wins 9 and 7. Bert won at least 7 games three out of five years. What you're asking for is not actually what we want (including you), and no one here thinks that 9 wins every four or so years is our ceiling.

We need to stop making completely fricking retarded hires. It's not like we're doing everything right and we just can't get it done, there's an obvious and glaring flaw that's causing all this strife, and it's easily correctable. First Chad with a whole three years of underwhelming experience at SMU, followed by a career o-line coach. Now there's talk that Gus could be a frontrunner? Not every hire can be a Petrino, but we suck as badly as we do because whoever is sticking their spoons in this thing, keeps treating it like goddamn Russian roulette.

We should win 7/8 regular season games most years. There's no reason we shouldn't pull that off. 9 wins and a low 20-something ranking should be on the table almost every season. Maybe once a decade we should miss a bowl. Once or twice a decade we should win 10+ and at least threaten the conference. If we can't do that, then there's literally no point. We can't PLAN for underwhelming mediocrity, or we might as well keep Pittman. He can be a six-win coach. Texas A&M had the stones to go out and get a coach who won the NC five years prior. Then when they got too gung-ho on that and botched it in a way that I thought only Arkansas could, they had the resolve to pay 76 million dollars to get rid of him. The point is, they carry themselves like winners, and they spend like winners. They're eventually going to start winning. Yeah, we may never beat Alabama while Nick Saban is there, and that sucks. But Nick Saban is one thing. All we have to do is stop losing to G5 teams and teams that won't be making a bowl even us as a win. That alone makes us a 7/8 win team every year. I promise we can do at least that if we pull our heads out of our asses.

If the bar is that low, then we don't deserve to be upset at this product on the field. Even if we never win the SEC in our entire existence, if we don't expect to win even half of our conference games, then just get out of the damn conference.

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Before too long, you've sank more money than you would have if you just bit the bullet and spent money on something halfway decent.

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We are here

Aggy has always spent like winners, they are a loser program who is historically below Arkansas.

They have money, they have the ability to get talent, they still lose.

Aggy has always been the shining example of what not to do.

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2006 could have been a BCS NC or at least appearance.

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2010 would have been the same. Auburn wouldn't have had Gus, and the Chizik hire on its own was every bit as bad as Chad/Pittman. We'd have had Mallett in the system for even longer, and we'd have had Michael Dyer. 2010 would have been a legit NC year for us.

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Aggy has always spent like winners, they are a loser program who is historically below Arkansas.

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They've currently won 11 of the past 12 against us, finished #5 in 2012, and finished #4/got snubbed for the playoffs in 2020. A&M is a joke, but they play the game like they understand the rules, even if they suck at the game.

I'm not saying we should do everything Aggy does. But they know they have money, a rabid fanbase, and are located in a recruiting volcano. I'm well past acting like we're somehow above them. We're not. Point blank. I don't know what weird bullshite is going on over there, maybe it's just the consequence of being as strange as they seem to be, but they actually have sustainable potential if they ever figure out the barrel of the gun is not supposed to be pointed at the foot.

Meanwhile, some of our fans are like "well, what if we hired Matt Campbell so we could win 7 games?" A&M is talking about hiring Elko and Traylor. We're talking about Gus Malzahn.

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Before too long, you've sank more money than you would have if you just bit the bullet and spent money on something halfway decent.

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Using this analogy you still have to be appealing enough to find a bank (coach) to give you a loan for that new car. No good coaches wanted to come here after Chad. We have a much better shot at getting one now.

We won't and will frick it all up in hilarious fashion but theoretically we could.