re: Leach, Kiffin, Pittman... discuss

You serious Clark?

2015 Washington State 9–4
2016 Washington State 8–5
2017 Washington State 9–4
2018 Washington State 11–2
2019 Washington State 6–7

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Look at his record as wazzu now compare to Ms states historical mean.

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Leach did ok at Washington State but he has some Bert type tendencies. I mean for crying out loud he blew a 32 point lead to UCLA. They had a 32 point lead with a little over 6 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter ---- that's around 21 minutes. All you have to do is run the ball, milk the clock, and have some semblence of a defense and you win that game.

He also has a little bit of Morris in the fact that he gets beat by teams he should have blown out. Leach lost to Portland State and Eastern Washington. I know he took over a bad job so losing to a couple FCS shouldn't be held against him............but it was in years 4 and 5 of his tenure.

With all that said I can't deny that he has done some great things at the two programs he coached. He's really good on the offensive side of the ball. But I just don't think all of his weird quirks - fat little girlfriend tirades - Bert-like twitter nonsense is worth the risk.

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Arguing about it doesn’t matter so this thread is pointless.

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Disagree.... I wanted discussion by folks to see how they believe we will rate, compete against those two specifically... and others.

I find it a great topic to discuss in the offseason for our board.. What else we going to discuss, uniforms again...

Good Lord! I don't give a frick if they wear pink belle bottoms as long as we win!

We could have had Kiffin or Leach. With the mess we have with Bert and Chaggie's buyouts... Our Buyout offer cost us.

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We could have had Kiffin or Leach. With the mess we have with Bert and Chaggie's buyouts... Our Buyout offer cost us.

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Buyouts are dumb. Anyone who requires a massive one to coach here probably doesn't deserve one. When is the last time you heard about a buyout saving a school from losing a good coach?

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Leach will have more talent at MSU than he has had before. They will be a formidable foe. His record may suffer from being in the SEC West, but he will be solid.

Kiffin will have a half way decent team. His name and recruiting will pay off.

They both should improve.

Pittman has brought in a good staff. He has the experience to run a program. We should return to a decent team. We have murderers row though now.

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Pretty much this... I think we will all improve quite a lot, but I’m thinking we will get the continuity that they won’t. I think Kiffin will do fairly well and bolt for a bigger gig in 2-3 years. Leach will probably be ok but after losing to Kiffin every year they’ll fire him.

Great hire for them. Like others have said if sam Pittman hadn't made the assistant hires he did I would be mad and upset.

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Leach will probably end up beating Bama in his first 2-3 years

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Wrong, wrong wrong. You do realize you must play defense to beat Bama. The Pirate hasn't ever had a defense, ever.

And Good Luck State

LOL

Yeah I wasn’t sold on Pittman at first but damn the dude has made good hire after good hire and you know his recruiting is gonna be pretty damn good. I’m not upset with Pittman anymore but it just sucks that both Mississippi schools made competent hires, at least on the surface. I was really hoping we could have 1 Easy win in the division which now we won’t get. I’m not so much upset with who we got as I am disheartened that everyone else seemed to make good hires as well.

I don't disagree with you on Leach, I'm just pointing out that saying you have to play defense to beat Bama is not exactly accurate.

Over the last several years, Ole Miss did it with offense. Clemson did it with offense. Texas A&M did it with offense. LSU did it with offense. Etc. If fact, without looking, I'd imagine Bama scored 30+ points in more of their losses over the last 5 or 6 years than they were held under 30 points in them.