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re: If we keep both coordinators for 3 more seasons what is the ceiling for this program?
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:42 am to FayetteNAM
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:42 am to FayetteNAM
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And we weren’t supposed to win 5 games this year.
It will be Pittmans 3rd class, a true 2 full recruiting classes. Hopefully he isn’t an idiot and saw this coming. And I think he has.
Not expecting growing pains next year and setting the expectations unrealistically for what we have on the roster is gonna hurt. We're not gonna be better than this year unless freshmen step up in a huge way at key positions. It probably makes us a little more inconsistent on defense and our offense probably doesn't have the deep ball as often.
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:49 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Realistically this year is our ceiling until the talent level gets taken up a notch.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:08 am to oklahogjr
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Not expecting growing pains next year and setting the expectations unrealistically for what we have on the roster is gonna hurt. We're not gonna be better than this year unless freshmen step up in a huge way at key positions. It probably makes us a little more inconsistent on defense and our offense probably doesn't have the deep ball as often.
All I have ever expected is 7-8 wins and not being embarrassing. With break through seasons of CFP/NY6 runs
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:29 am to FayetteNAM
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All I have ever expected is 7-8 wins and not being embarrassing. With break through seasons of CFP/NY6 runs
Next year doesn't really setup for s run. The following year should if Pittman does the recruiting right
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:58 am to CFB_Fanatic
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Point is, IDK how you can look at this team with all we are losing and think we will be better next year
The hope is KJ takes another step forward. He has the potential to be our best qb ever. I mean is there any returning qb you’d rather have? If he cleans a few things up he could be the number 1 overall pick.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:07 pm to Poker_hog
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The hope is KJ takes another step forward. He has the potential to be our best qb ever. I mean is there any returning qb you’d rather have? If he cleans a few things up he could be the number 1 overall pick.
Never underestimate how good an elite receiver can make your QB look.
If we don't have separation over the top or defense don't have to spend most of the game double covering Burks how good does that passing scheme game work?
To be clear i think KJ has all the potential in the world and am excited to see him continue progressing. It's just he could get better and have more challenges next year to offset.
This post was edited on 11/28/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:08 pm to Poker_hog
But, we desperately need O line who will do a much better job protecting him.
The last few games, has been tough on him for sure.
And who replaces Burks? TE Grouping is gonna be better...
I see holes everywhere almost, we need to be patient
The last few games, has been tough on him for sure.
And who replaces Burks? TE Grouping is gonna be better...
I see holes everywhere almost, we need to be patient
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:22 pm to oklahogjr
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If we don't have separation over the top or defense don't have to spend most of the game double covering Burks how good does that passing scheme game work?
Burks is great and we won’t come close to replacing him but a big reason our offense works is because the defense has to respect the qb run and all aspects of the passing game. That’s not going away.
Our offense still looked clunky at times. My hope is with another year under his belt it will look like a well oiled machine like ole miss did this year and like daddy brile’s offense at Baylor.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:27 pm to Razorback Reverend
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But, we desperately need O line who will do a much better job protecting him.
O line will be fine. Year 3 pittboss with decent depth. A lot of those sacks were when the defense sold out on a blitz. That’s on the QB.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:35 pm to Razorback Reverend
quote:we’re bringing back 4 starters so the o line should be a strength next year and if anyone gets beat out by any younger lineman look out that means we could be in for great line play. I really expect the run game to be very dominant next year but who knows. We definitely need some receivers to step up because teams are gonna sell out on the run
But, we desperately need O line who will do a much better job protecting him.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:57 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
LSU is fixing to sink like a rock. Nobody wants that job with CEO still connected to the program and it’s funny watching LSU fans reject that reality.
Harsin will be mediocre at Auburn, just look at recruiting.
Lane won’t be at Ole Miss long
Texas sucks
Pirate will always be a good shot to win.
ATM has Jimbo who hasn’t developed a QB in a decade.
The west will soon come down to Alabama, Arkansas, or ChokeU.
Harsin will be mediocre at Auburn, just look at recruiting.
Lane won’t be at Ole Miss long
Texas sucks
Pirate will always be a good shot to win.
ATM has Jimbo who hasn’t developed a QB in a decade.
The west will soon come down to Alabama, Arkansas, or ChokeU.
This post was edited on 11/28/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:59 pm to Poker_hog
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Burks is great and we won’t come close to replacing him but a big reason our offense works is because the defense has to respect the qb run and all aspects of the passing game. That’s not going away.
So who is our deep threat next year that can win a 1 on 1 matchup with their top cover corner consistently?
Thompson looked good in flashes but definitely isn't burks.
And look I'm not saying we don't figure it out by committee and recruiting. But it's gonna take some incoming freshmen and transfers to step up big to get back where we are this year let alone surpass it.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 1:12 pm to oklahogjr
I think ketron Jackson and warren Thompson together take a lot of pressure off the run game. Neither maybe as good as burks but where burks could win 2 on 1 matchups these guys I think will at least be good enough to go win 1 on 1 with whoever is matched up on that teams no.2 corner
Posted on 11/28/21 at 1:24 pm to oklahogjr
Yep. And don’t forget, a lot of the SEC was down this year: LSU crapped the bed, Alabama isn’t normal Bama, Auburn is in year one with Harsin, TAMU lost their QB when we played them which helped us immensely, etc etc.
Not saying we still aren’t better than those teams at full strength, but still. It’s hard to look at this year and project similar success next year with all we are going to lose off this team and the state of the conference for the 2021 season (when it will likely be improved in 2022).
On the flip side, Kiffin (if he’s still there) loses Matt Corral and LSU will be in rebuild mode next year. Pirate will probably be better though because Will Rogers will be back with more experience.
Not saying we still aren’t better than those teams at full strength, but still. It’s hard to look at this year and project similar success next year with all we are going to lose off this team and the state of the conference for the 2021 season (when it will likely be improved in 2022).
On the flip side, Kiffin (if he’s still there) loses Matt Corral and LSU will be in rebuild mode next year. Pirate will probably be better though because Will Rogers will be back with more experience.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 1:58 pm to oklahogjr
There are mock drafts with Catalon going back end of the first. I did see any realistic chance of him coming back.
Brown just put together a very solid season. Is there anything else he can put on tape that he hasn’t already shown? I wouldn’t expect him back either.
Brown just put together a very solid season. Is there anything else he can put on tape that he hasn’t already shown? I wouldn’t expect him back either.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 2:50 pm to oklahogjr
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So who is our deep threat next year that can win a 1 on 1 matchup with their top cover corner consistently?
Thompson looked good in flashes but definitely isn't burks.
And look I'm not saying we don't figure it out by committee and recruiting. But it's gonna take some incoming freshmen and transfers to step up big to get back where we are this year let alone surpass it.
I don't think it will be the same formula. We for sure won't have a 1000 yard receiver but the passing yards could be the same or more. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rocket or Green way more involved in the passing game. They are too good to be spending most of the game on the sideline.
This post was edited on 11/28/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 11/28/21 at 4:20 pm to Razorbacking
Catalon would be a first rounder if he was over six feet. But his injury and his size will keep him out of the first three rounds if he leaves now. Tyrann Mathieu was drafted only in the third round which is surprising considering he was an all American. He was measured at 5-8 3/4. He needs to comeback and prove that he is healed from his injury and have a banner year. Then he has a chance to make it in the first two rounds.
This post was edited on 11/28/21 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 11/28/21 at 5:03 pm to dchog
Tyrann didn’t fall because of stature. Off the field question marks were significant factors for his draft position.
Regardless of where Catalon ends up being picked, some scouts/media have him as a first round talent. You don’t come back when that is your perception.
Regardless of where Catalon ends up being picked, some scouts/media have him as a first round talent. You don’t come back when that is your perception.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 5:22 pm to Razorbacking
His size certainly had to do with his draft status. His problems didn't help but they all have them and they still get drafted high.
Draft projections always have players rated higher than they are but after the combine which gives a better perspective of athleticism. Then it will reveal more of where they should be drafted. Catalon based on play should be a first rounder but that isn't how it works.
Draft projections always have players rated higher than they are but after the combine which gives a better perspective of athleticism. Then it will reveal more of where they should be drafted. Catalon based on play should be a first rounder but that isn't how it works.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 6:10 pm to Poker_hog
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I don't think it will be the same formula. We for sure won't have a 1000 yard receiver but the passing yards could be the same or more. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rocket or Green way more involved in the passing game. They are too good to be spending most of the game on the sideline.
Offense should work itself out eventually. Probably relies on KJ and the run game early and often to start and then as we develop WR threats we'll see it open up a little more.
Defense though, we're losing the heart and soul of the defense in that linebacker corp. i'm assuming catalon is back next year. but with the pass rushers too its concerning that we maybe missing pieces of the secondary and almost the entirety of the front 7.
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