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If some of you are too young to remember Houston Nutt’s tenure
Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:49 am
This was what it was like. World beaters one week, complete arse the next. The opponent never seemed to matter it was just random week to week.
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Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:51 am to Latarian
So much truth to this. The emotional roller coaster was never ending.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:55 am to Latarian
Didn’t you just say all he needed to do was change coordinators?
Nutt did that all the time and it didn’t change shite.
Curious to know why it will be different or if you’re in the “he just deserves the chance” camp.
I guess I get it but he’s a 65 year old with no HC experience. He got his shot and we got what we all knew we’d get. High floor low ceiling guy.
I know we will keep him another year but the writing on the wall for 4-8 Bert 5th year is pretty easy to read.
Nutt did that all the time and it didn’t change shite.
Curious to know why it will be different or if you’re in the “he just deserves the chance” camp.
I guess I get it but he’s a 65 year old with no HC experience. He got his shot and we got what we all knew we’d get. High floor low ceiling guy.
I know we will keep him another year but the writing on the wall for 4-8 Bert 5th year is pretty easy to read.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 9:56 am to Latarian
Pittman can’t hold Nutt’s balls.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:00 am to STLhog
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I know we will keep him another year but the writing on the wall for 4-8 Bert 5th year is pretty easy to read.
And then comes the Nutt two year pass given to Pittman.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:06 am to Latarian
I remember the Nutt tenure more fondly than this honestly. I would take 10 more years like ‘98 through ‘07 if offered to me
Usually beat the non P5s with the exception of UNLV I think? Seemingly had generational players one after the other. 6 seasons of 8+ wins
Usually beat the non P5s with the exception of UNLV I think? Seemingly had generational players one after the other. 6 seasons of 8+ wins
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:07 am to STLhog
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Didn’t you just say all he needed to do was change coordinators?
I said this about Nutt several times in his career, Junior. Nutt’s problem was staying out of their way and letting them do their job.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:13 am to The Sultan of Swine
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Seemingly had generational players one after the other. 6 seasons of 8+ wins
Nutt didn’t have to face Saban’s Bama every year and State and OM were mostly dogshit during his tenure. He did fine but let’s not rewrite history here, he mostly underachieved with a lot of talent, some of the best players we have ever had.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:18 am to Latarian
Hey man. All due respect to you.
Was legit wanting your opinion on why you feel this situation is different than Nutt or Bert year 4.
To me, hiring new coordinators means we lose some players and start further behind the 8 ball with a new system.
And I don’t see how it solves the total lack of effort and preparation we saw 50-60% of the time this season.
Was legit wanting your opinion on why you feel this situation is different than Nutt or Bert year 4.
To me, hiring new coordinators means we lose some players and start further behind the 8 ball with a new system.
And I don’t see how it solves the total lack of effort and preparation we saw 50-60% of the time this season.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 10:19 am
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:19 am to Latarian
That’s fair, I'm just talking about the outcomes, not claiming Nutt was a genius or something
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:24 am to STLhog
He won 9 games last year, in year 2 (a # Bert never reached), that bought him some time imo but he needs to make changes, that’s the first step before a HC gets canned. We have decent talent, we fire him now its open season on our roster and we’re right back to where we were in 2019-2020. Not worth the risk imo. Not being a sunshine pumper but we didn’t have good injury luck and our schedule didn’t have the usual 2-3 cupcakes that we could coast against and rest some guys. We had a dogfight every week and this roster didn’t have the depth to withstand it.
IMHO
IMHO
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:31 am to Latarian
A 6 win season is not shocking. I predicted 7 wins. Tough schedule and we aren’t there yet talent wise to have your “low end” expectations be above 7 wins.
I would classify this season as a slight disappointment. One slightly disappointing season after a slightly passing expectations season shouldn’t put one on the hot seat in their third year at a program at our level.
Stick with Sam and see how it goes next year. 6 wins or less next year then it’s time to consider our options. 7 and the seat is warm. 8+ and things generally seem to be going in right direction then we have to be happy.
I would classify this season as a slight disappointment. One slightly disappointing season after a slightly passing expectations season shouldn’t put one on the hot seat in their third year at a program at our level.
Stick with Sam and see how it goes next year. 6 wins or less next year then it’s time to consider our options. 7 and the seat is warm. 8+ and things generally seem to be going in right direction then we have to be happy.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:33 am to Latarian
I guess I’m with you for most of the year but it still doesn’t excuse A@M, Liberty and Mizzou to me. No excuse to not win 1-2 of those, especially Mizzou after stomping Ole Miss.
And if all that were true about the roster, we’d never fire a coach again.
Starting over in 2024 feels a lot worse than next year.
Also my opinion and only say any of the above if a solid, proven/up and coming coach were available. Don’t think any of that is true and why HY won’t be doing anything so it’s all basically hot air.
And if all that were true about the roster, we’d never fire a coach again.
Starting over in 2024 feels a lot worse than next year.
Also my opinion and only say any of the above if a solid, proven/up and coming coach were available. Don’t think any of that is true and why HY won’t be doing anything so it’s all basically hot air.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:36 am to STLhog
A&M and Mizzou were inexcusable. State is a wash because KJ was hurt, probably wouldn’t have mattered.
Liberty is bad but I’m convinced KJ wasn’t close to full health. It was pretty obvious he couldn’t move or throw well. We should’ve rested him for that to have him for LSU. A critical error by the staff in hindsight but I guess they felt a better chance to beat Liberty with hurt KJ than LSU at full strength. We beat LSU with a healthy KJ.
Re: the roster: We haven’t fired a coach under the new transfer portal rules. It scares me what would happen. Look at OU, Miami, Florida, etc.
Liberty is bad but I’m convinced KJ wasn’t close to full health. It was pretty obvious he couldn’t move or throw well. We should’ve rested him for that to have him for LSU. A critical error by the staff in hindsight but I guess they felt a better chance to beat Liberty with hurt KJ than LSU at full strength. We beat LSU with a healthy KJ.
Re: the roster: We haven’t fired a coach under the new transfer portal rules. It scares me what would happen. Look at OU, Miami, Florida, etc.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:36 am to Jon Ham
quote:Missouri, Texas A&M, Liberty, and Missouri state are not tough teams. Hell we played better against tougher competition. We lost 3 out of the 5 easiest games on the schedule. Bama, Mississippi state, and lsu were the only losses to tough teams and 2 of those were without our starting qb, one of which if he had started we might’ve won, and that was against the sec west champ! That’s not a talent problem, that’s a lack of focus problem
Tough schedule and we aren’t there yet talent wise to have your “low end” expectations be above 7 wins.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:39 am to Latarian
Don’t disagree with any or this or Drapers post.
Except Liberty beat us with their 3rd string QB that was sick all week.
How is that even possible?
Kind of thing and the Mizzou game scares the shite out of me.
Plus the eery similarities of Larry and Club Dub.
Except Liberty beat us with their 3rd string QB that was sick all week.
How is that even possible?
Kind of thing and the Mizzou game scares the shite out of me.
Plus the eery similarities of Larry and Club Dub.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:42 am to STLhog
Didn’t have a problem with the D that day, 21 should be more than enough for our offense to score. Our OL got whipped and Cody Kennedy should be on the hot seat, especially after yesterday. Pittman needs to be more hands on with that unit, or get better players.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:45 am to Latarian
Odom has proven he can adjust and was dealt a tough hand. I’m fine keeping him around if he hits portal hard as others have said.
The attrition is concerning but probably just the new norm.
The offense was a fricking joke yesterday and against liberty when it counted. Also totally inept in the second half against A&M.
Briles just isn’t cut out for this league.
The attrition is concerning but probably just the new norm.
The offense was a fricking joke yesterday and against liberty when it counted. Also totally inept in the second half against A&M.
Briles just isn’t cut out for this league.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:45 am to Latarian
Said this last night, but beating the shite out of #14 Ole Miss and then laying an egg against a 5-6 Mizzou team the next week is the epitome of the Nutt era.
Posted on 11/26/22 at 10:47 am to Feral
The defense mostly adjusted in the second half.
Couldn’t close there at the end but is that fair when the offense put them on the field 3-4 times within 30 seconds?
Staple of Kendall Briles.
Hogs should play like the Titans.
Couldn’t close there at the end but is that fair when the offense put them on the field 3-4 times within 30 seconds?
Staple of Kendall Briles.
Hogs should play like the Titans.
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