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re: I Stand in Awe of Arkansas' Legislators

Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:48 am to
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:48 am to
Christians are the only ones that give a shite about Sunday. Muslims Friday Jews Saturday
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8499 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:57 am to
Politics are retarded. Some may say it's necessary because Anarchy would crush society, but I'm under the impression that both are a shite storm.

Politics create divide.

If the whole human race would put aside their differences and just learn to accept this beautiful earth we live on, then it would be all good.

Never going to happen. Money, Power, Religion fricks everything up.

We sit here every day and find something to bitch about locally, nationally, etc...

It's quite stupid. If people could use the most simple concepts(logic, reason) that every human is capable of, we would be fine.

But there is constant bullshite fed to the masses that keeps people fricked up.

People are so susceptible to bullshite for ex.. Jonestown, Scientology, White Privilege, Feminism.

None of that shite should matter. We are killing our society because people can't think for themselves and treat other people with respect.

Tl;dr IDGAF. Yes I'm drunk, but god damn. shite pisses me off.

Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8499 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 4:02 am to
And to further my point. frick SOCIAL MEDIA.

A. It gives you a glimpse into the stupidity of the average American.

B. It creates false emotion

C. It disconnects people from basic human interaction.



I remember the days when cell phones didn't exist. Sure you could say that it has helped society see through some of the bullshite that our elected officials create. BUT as a whole it's created a disconnect from human nature.

We are so consumed by technology and all the problems that come with it.

Back to the transparency of our "elected officials" that's the only positive from social media. frick those corrupted bastards.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8499 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 4:07 am to
One more thing.

If any of all you have seen Interstellar, I think it is a great example of society and how it should be.

We should be unified in search of answers, information, discovery.

But we are glued to our fricking tv's, computers, phones that we can't just sit back and look at the stars and want to explore.

We don't know shite about existence as far as I'm concerned. Theories upon theories, but yet we don't take the next step and explore.

We live in a bubble, and we would rather talk about a movie stars porn video than discovering our purpose.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8499 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 4:08 am to
Divide and conquer I suppose
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8499 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 4:11 am to
Our education system is a joke. Instead of catering to a young man/woman's interest we make them learn about shite that has no bearing on their lives.

The American society has become full of consumers for the most part. Not PRODUCERS. Not people that want to change the world as we know.

It's not the youth's fault. And it's a GOD DAMN shame that we see this as standard.
Posted by jdevers
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/5/15 at 11:26 am to
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So now we are comparing being gay, or Christian to mass killings? 



To be fair, I think Tom Cotton did this I n a national interview so it is somewhat relevant to the title.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:37 pm to
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you can NOT use religion to justify hate.


It's not 'hate' to opt to not take part or contribute to a practice that is not ordained or condoned by your religion. No one said anything about 'hating' the person. The Bible tells us to love our enemy even, but it doesn't say participate in their sin.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42353 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:45 pm to
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It's not 'hate' to opt to not take part or contribute to a practice that is not ordained or condoned by your religion.


Marriage isn't a religious contract, it is a legal contract oversaw by the government, no marriage is legal in the country without first being approved and purchasing a license from the government.

Not open up you book and tell me what is says about obeying the laws of the land...
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10404 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:56 pm to
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Marriage isn't a religious contract


Ah, but yes it is to Christians.

It was a 'religious contract', as you put it, a long time before it just became a legal agreement. WAY before the government decided 'hey we can make folks get a license, collect a fee and make some money.'

Why do you think so many religions will not perform or recognize a same sex marriage?

As far as the tax breaks and crap gays were originally crying about not getting, heck let them get some sort of 'civil union agreement' and HAVE the tax breaks, insurance breaks, maternity coverage (oh, wait...) and all of the 'government' things they claim they want.

It will just never be a true Godly recognized 'marriage' in the eyes of many. And although God still loves them just as much as me or you and offers them the same forgiveness He offers me and you - I don't think He will view it as a true marriage in a religion sense either. Let the government and the gays view it however they want to though. Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's, render unto God what is God's'

However, just don't ask me to sing at, or bake a cake at, or even attend a gay wedding. I will politely and respectfully decline. And I wouldn't be offended if they didn't want to take any part in mine either.

Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42353 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:03 pm to
A civil union is what occurs in a church.

A marriage is what occurs at your local government office.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10404 posts
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:11 pm to
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A civil union is what occurs in a church.

A marriage is what occurs at your local government office.



I define it the other way, but it's just terminology.
One is ordained and blessed by God, one is not what He had in mind.

Mark 10:6-9

6 "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.' 7 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
This post was edited on 4/5/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
2985 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:19 pm to
It always amazes me that anytime politics comes up on this board the "you Christians" comments start to fly.

I'm well aware of the fact that I'm not perfect and even though I think this bill has some problems, I think it's a step forward for Religious Freedom. I don't have the right to judge another but at the same time I SHOULD have the right not to associate with what I might consider sinful activity.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22805 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:11 pm to
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It always amazes me that anytime politics comes up on this board the "you Christians" comments start to fly. I'm well aware of the fact that I'm not perfect and even though I think this bill has some problems, I think it's a step forward for Religious Freedom. I don't have the right to judge another but at the same time I SHOULD have the right not to associate with what I might consider sinful activity.



It really seems to center on what people consider wrong and not. For instance, I consider homosexuality a sin period. Just as Adultery, fornication, etc.

I would bet the same rights would not be given to child molesters, but homosexual sodomy is fine with "you non Christian" folks as long as it is adults doing the act.

Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:31 pm to
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homosexual sodomy is fine with "you non Christian" folks as long as it is adults doing the act.


Two adults are capable of giving consent. A child cannot give consent. Its pretty simple. Same goes for the "sex with ducks" Pat Robertson angle. Animals can't consent to sex with humans, so it isn't a fair comparison to gay sex between consenting adults.

"Christians" get unfairly all lumped together in some of these discussions. But you should remember, different Christians believe different things. There are gay-affirming Christian churches. There are Christians who don't believe in musical instruments. Some abstain from electricity. Others observe Judaic "kosher" requirements. Some go to church on Saturdays. Others believe Jesus came to the New World.

There are so many different "Christian" beliefs on the planet. I get a kick out of a staunch Baptist relative of mine talking about worldwide "Christianty" when a huge percentage of those "Christians" he considers to be hellbound. Catholics, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Orthodox "pagan Mary-worshippers" etc.

Given the huge differences in opinion on various matters even within the Christian faith, how do Christians in the U.S. suggest so-called "Christian ethics" be applied to government? Christians can't even agree on some of the most basic tenets of their faith.

Keep religion and govt separate.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42353 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 6:42 pm to
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I think it's a step forward for Religious Freedom.


There is already religious freedom in this country.

The bill was an effort to infringe on the civil rights of individuals and discriminate against individuals using religion as a justification for the discrimination which is not a protected right of practicing religion in this country.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 7:09 pm to
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Same goes for the "sex with ducks" Pat Robertson angle.
Why have sex with ducks when you can just quack off?
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10404 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:37 pm to
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Our education system is a joke. Instead of catering to a young man/woman's interest we make them learn about shite that has no bearing on their lives.


Don't get me started on the education 'factory' system.

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The American society has become full of consumers for the most part. Not PRODUCERS.


AMERICA became a consumer nation instead of a producer nation many years ago. The start of a great decline in the economy.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10404 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:39 pm to
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Animals can't consent to sex with humans, so it isn't a fair comparison to gay sex between consenting adults.


What does this mean for Muslims and their goats? (Yes, drone surveillance video is floating around online.)
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