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Here's my concern with Enos
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 2:48 pm
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1Let me start off by saying that Enos is a solid hire but I believe we are moving backwards.
Yes, Enos was good while he was here but my fear is that we will fall back into the "ground and pound" approach that I believe Sam wants to return to.
I believe this approach is outdated and we are moving in the wrong direction.
I don't think CSP is comfortable with a more wide open attack and that was part of the issue with Kindle Breyers (but not the only one)
Look at the TCU Michigan game. Michigan was a run oriented team against a wide open offense. Now image Arkansas playing the Michigan role against 6 TCUs each year with vastly more talent.
Just my initial thoughts
Yes, Enos was good while he was here but my fear is that we will fall back into the "ground and pound" approach that I believe Sam wants to return to.
I believe this approach is outdated and we are moving in the wrong direction.
I don't think CSP is comfortable with a more wide open attack and that was part of the issue with Kindle Breyers (but not the only one)
Look at the TCU Michigan game. Michigan was a run oriented team against a wide open offense. Now image Arkansas playing the Michigan role against 6 TCUs each year with vastly more talent.
Just my initial thoughts
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by TheCheshireHog 
on 1/19/23 at 2:52 pm to boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 2:52 pm to boogiewoogie1978Nothing about Enos is ground and pound. Last time he was here, we ran it around 100 times less per season than what we did this year. If anything, we’re going to pass the ball more going forward.
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by STLhog on 1/19/23 at 2:58 pm to boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 2:58 pm to boogiewoogie1978quote:
Look at the TCU Michigan game. Michigan was a run oriented team against a wide open offense. Now image Arkansas playing the Michigan role against 6 TCUs each year with vastly more talent.
Just my initial thoughts
Michigan beat the brakes off OSU using this approach?
And you think Michigan's ground and pound lost them the game?
Pretty sure the goal line stop in the 1st, the goal line fumble and the 2 picks 6s and then a fumbled snap at the end is what lost them the game.
Had dick to do with their offensive style.
This post was edited on 1/19 at 3:00 pm
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by STLhog on 1/19/23 at 2:59 pm to boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 2:59 pm to boogiewoogie1978quote:
against 6 TCUs each year with vastly more talent.
Briles offense has been dog shite against any of the decent teams in the SEC.
Look it up, besides 1 year at Bama (last year) he's been a total failure against anyone in the top 2-3.
He couldn't get it done against Liberty and Mizzou when it counted.
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by boogiewoogie1978 on 1/19/23 at 3:15 pm to STLhog
on 1/19/23 at 3:15 pm to STLhogquote:
He couldn't get it done against Liberty and Mizzou when it counted.
I think this has more to do with effort but that is another story.
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by hawgfaninc on 1/19/23 at 3:15 pm to boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 3:15 pm to boogiewoogie1978Misplaced concern is misplaced
I suspect it’s primarily due to battered hog fan syndrome
I suspect it’s primarily due to battered hog fan syndrome
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by Hawgnsincebirth55 
on 1/19/23 at 3:16 pm to STLhog
on 1/19/23 at 3:16 pm to STLhogSo now the Liberty loss is no longer because we had a hurt qb with no viable backup but because briles sucks? I get it, he went looking at other schools one too many times but can we please stop acting as if briles is a terrible OC who we told to hit the road?
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by boogiewoogie1978 on 1/19/23 at 3:19 pm to STLhog
on 1/19/23 at 3:19 pm to STLhogquote:
Michigan beat the brakes off OSU using this approach?
Ok..........
Do we have the same talent as Michigan?
That's their Super Bowl
They play in a weak conference. Do you think they could do that week in and week out in the SEC. Nope
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by silverstreak 
on 1/19/23 at 3:19 pm to STLhog
on 1/19/23 at 3:19 pm to STLhogquote:you may want to check out Enos' performance. Oof
Briles offense has been dog shite against any of the decent teams in the SEC.
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by silverstreak on 1/19/23 at 3:22 pm to hawgfaninc
on 1/19/23 at 3:22 pm to hawgfanincquote:why is it misplaced? He had one season that people point to (which wasn't that impressive on further inspection) but he's been fairly average otherwise.
Misplaced concern is misplaced
I suspect it’s primarily due to battered hog fan syndrome
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re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by HogPharmer on 1/19/23 at 3:42 pm to boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 3:42 pm to boogiewoogie1978Shoulda went with Jim Chaney 
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by boogiewoogie1978 on 1/19/23 at 3:56 pm to TheCheshireHog
on 1/19/23 at 3:56 pm to TheCheshireHogquote:
Last time he was here, we ran it around 100 times less per season than what we did this year
You mean the year we went 4-8 and was playing from behind most of the games?
I'm willing to bet Briles ran it more, passed it more, and had more total offense.
Just stop it!
Also.......what was the PPG average
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by HogX on 1/19/23 at 4:19 pm to boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 4:19 pm to boogiewoogie1978Saw this on Twitter. Talk amongst yourself.
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by STLhog on 1/19/23 at 4:25 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
on 1/19/23 at 4:25 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55quote:
So now the Liberty loss is no longer because we had a hurt qb with no viable backup but because briles sucks? I get it, he went looking at other schools one too many times but can we please stop acting as if briles is a terrible OC who we told to hit the road?
I'm not acting like he's terrible.
He was the OC of a 7-6 team that couldn't do anything against the top 2 teams in the division and couldn't score against Liberty and Mizzou when it counted.
Not acting like Enos makes us a 10 win team either but I'm pretty confident he won't make us worse than last year.
This post was edited on 1/19 at 4:26 pm
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by hawgfaninc on 1/19/23 at 4:28 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
on 1/19/23 at 4:28 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55Let’s not pretend fans weren’t deriding Briles every chance they got and hoping he would leave.
This post was edited on 1/19 at 4:30 pm
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by STLhog on 1/19/23 at 4:32 pm to boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 4:32 pm to boogiewoogie1978quote:
Do you think they could do that week in and week out in the SEC. Nope
Petrino is the only person that has managed any sort of "week in and week out" winning in the SEC in 30 years.
Kendal, Enos, Sean McVay doesn't really change that.
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by STLhog on 1/19/23 at 4:33 pm to hawgfaninc
on 1/19/23 at 4:33 pm to hawgfanincWhere is the finger tape? Have to buy that separately?
I get the reservations but at most this is a wash. I don't see how it could be perceived as moving backwards. We've griped about QB development since Briles got here and now we remedy that with one of the best options available with a proven track record AT THIS SCHOOL that he can run a successful offense. I don't know what more the guy needs to do to remedy concern.
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by TheCheshireHog on 1/19/23 at 4:43 pm to boogiewoogie1978
on 1/19/23 at 4:43 pm to boogiewoogie1978quote:
You mean the year we went 4-8 and was playing from behind most of the games?
No. I’m referencing their peak seasons.
quote:
I'm willing to bet Briles ran it more, passed it more, and had more total offense.
Total Plays:
Enos:
2015: 886
2016 : 923
2017: 802 (869 - adjusted for 13 games)
Briles:
2020: 678 (882 - adjusted for 13 games)
2021: 902
2022: 962
Rushing:
Enos:
2015: 512 attempts - 2565 yards
2016: 517 attempts - 2135 yards
2017: 462 attempts - 2016 yards (501 attempts - 2184 - adjust for 13 games.)
Briles:
2020: 394 attempts - 1513 yards (512 attempts - 1967 yards - adjusted for 13 games)
2021: 588 attempts - 2961 yards
2022: 605 attempts - 3075 yards
Passing:
Enos:
2015: 374 attempts - 3486 yards
2016: 406 attempts - 3434 yards
2017: 340 attempts - 2465 yards (368 attempts - 2670 yards)
Briles:
2020: 284 attempts - 2402 yards (369 attempts - 3124 yards - adjusted for 13 games)
2021: 314 attempts - 2781 yards
2022: 357 attempts - 3051 yards
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Also.......what was the PPG average
Here is where it gets interesting. Enos numbers go down each year ending with his injury decimated final year when Austin Allen was hurt all season and out multiple times and returning SEC leading rusher Rawleigh Williams was lost for the season in fall ball.
Meanwhile Briles numbers go up every season including his injury riddled final season when KJ Jefferson was hurt most of the season and out multiple times. All-SEC WR and 1st round draft choice Treylon Burks was also missing and assumed to hurt the offensive firepower.
Enos:
2015 - 35.9
2016 - 30.3
2017 - 28.8
Briles:
2020 - 25.7
2021 - 30.9
2022 - 32.5
This post was edited on 1/19 at 4:54 pm
re: Here's my concern with EnosPosted by Feral on 1/19/23 at 5:07 pm to TheCheshireHog
on 1/19/23 at 5:07 pm to TheCheshireHogquote:
Nothing about Enos is ground and pound. Last time he was here, we ran it around 100 times less per season than what we did this year. If anything, we’re going to pass the ball more going forward.
This.
Our pass/run yardage splits were about 49/51, meaning that 49% came from passing and 51% came from the run. Maryland was 65/35 this year in favor of the pass. We were closer to 60/40 when Enos was here last time.
Like Chesh said, I expect us to air it out more and mix in more PA from the pistol.
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