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ADH recommended having a 28-day shutdown
Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:23 pm
Do you think we will have another shutdown in the state. Will basketball be played/cancelled this year?
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The Arkansas Department of Health recommended having a 28-day shutdown where schools would be virtual, everyone would work remotely and there would be no indoor dining at restaurants. This guidance was issued on October 9. It also recommended that there be more COVID-19 briefings and better enforcement of the mask mandate.
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“The basic fundamental recommendations to control the spread is to wear a mask it is to socially distance and it is to cleanse your hands,” Governor Asa Hutchinson said. “Early on there was a lot of pressure to shut down the economy I resisted that we didn’t do that, and I don’t believe it is time to go back on that decision making.”
He said the biggest increase of cases comes from social gatherings at people’s homes and he said that’s not something that could be controlled.
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Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:24 pm to pioneerbasketball
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ADH recommended having a 28-day shutdown
Screw them.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:51 pm to pioneerbasketball
ADH can frick off.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 3:57 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Looks like we have some posters wanting to shut down with the downvotes.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 4:58 pm to pioneerbasketball
quote:I'd rather support a shutdown than upvote you so...
Looks like we have some posters wanting to shut down with the downvotes.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 5:26 pm to pioneerbasketball
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He said the biggest increase of cases comes from social gatherings at people’s homes and he said that’s not something that could be controlled
Good luck with that, Asa.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:51 pm to pioneerbasketball
No chance the state would do this, but if they did it would actually help 'safely' continuing college football and basketball seasons.
Players and coaches would effectively be in a bubble. Unfortunately health officials and politicians right now don't traffic in logic, economics, or 2nd/3rd/4th order effects, more or less CYA 101. Even the data that they have is being excruciatingly misinterpreted.
Players and coaches would effectively be in a bubble. Unfortunately health officials and politicians right now don't traffic in logic, economics, or 2nd/3rd/4th order effects, more or less CYA 101. Even the data that they have is being excruciatingly misinterpreted.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 11/13/20 at 8:18 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
I feel like all of this was just a big social experiment by some sick depraved people.
or maybe I'm just crazy
My dad had it. He is 65 and a diabetic. It fricked him up pretty good for a few days. I had to take care of him, and made my mom stay away. He's about back to normal other than his legs just haven't regained strength(doesn't help that he's older in that regard)
He got it, along with my brother and his wife, up in Pittsburgh, PA. Brother is 35 and just had chills/fever for a day. Taste/smell loss for a few days(said he's been way sicker). Somehow my mom didn't get it. She's pretty vunerable.
I miraculously didn't get it while taking care of him. I took precautions, but this shite is obviously contagious as hell.
I think the general consensus should be to let younger people live their lives normally. People 60 and up take precautions. No more of this lock down bullshite.
We know the risk, now lets let people make decisions for themselves.
or maybe I'm just crazy
My dad had it. He is 65 and a diabetic. It fricked him up pretty good for a few days. I had to take care of him, and made my mom stay away. He's about back to normal other than his legs just haven't regained strength(doesn't help that he's older in that regard)
He got it, along with my brother and his wife, up in Pittsburgh, PA. Brother is 35 and just had chills/fever for a day. Taste/smell loss for a few days(said he's been way sicker). Somehow my mom didn't get it. She's pretty vunerable.
I miraculously didn't get it while taking care of him. I took precautions, but this shite is obviously contagious as hell.
I think the general consensus should be to let younger people live their lives normally. People 60 and up take precautions. No more of this lock down bullshite.
We know the risk, now lets let people make decisions for themselves.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:58 pm to razorbackfan4life
The problem is the lack of ICU beds, hospital inventory...
We are quickly filling up, and when a stroke happens, heart attack, cancer problem, pregnancy issue... Beds are taken up by Covid.
We do need to mitigate the numbers, slow this thing down in our nation and in our state somehow.
IDK the answer completely. I don't agree with Biden of shutting it all down, but.... What then?
We are quickly filling up, and when a stroke happens, heart attack, cancer problem, pregnancy issue... Beds are taken up by Covid.
We do need to mitigate the numbers, slow this thing down in our nation and in our state somehow.
IDK the answer completely. I don't agree with Biden of shutting it all down, but.... What then?
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:36 pm to Razorback Reverend
The answer all along has been testing and contact tracing. We have just failed miserably to do either properly. My wife and I both tested positive and were sick for about 2 weeks. The state health department called my wife to tell her to stay home, but never asked about our contacts, and they never called me at all.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 12:18 am to razorbackfan4life
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I think the general consensus should be to let younger people live their lives normally. People 60 and up take precautions. No more of this lock down bullshite
This is the common sense and best approach, which has actualy been approved and pushed by thousands upon thousands of doctors worldwide.
.... Which means the politcians hate the idea.
The UN and the WHO, by no means a populist organization, even said that lockdowns are nothing but horrendous and detrimental to society. If Asa follows this BS, there will be mass protests from counties, local sheriffs, etc.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 1:12 am to Jack Ruby
So, what do you do with the teacher, coach, police officer, physician, etal... Who has an autoimmune disease?
Awww, So the family medical leave act that allows the person to be on health leave (without pay btw) to take care of them. Yeah, right. Loses home, car, family basically or they are required to be in the classroom, gym, squad car on patrol, and the ER....
Guys, I am in no way a biden fan, or a democrat... Phew...
HOwever, there has to be a better way to take care of those who the public has relied on for years... but now, they matter only to the extent that they offer value in their positions alone. Sorry, if they need to leave and take care of themselves without any salary, or insurance.
Awww, So the family medical leave act that allows the person to be on health leave (without pay btw) to take care of them. Yeah, right. Loses home, car, family basically or they are required to be in the classroom, gym, squad car on patrol, and the ER....
Guys, I am in no way a biden fan, or a democrat... Phew...
HOwever, there has to be a better way to take care of those who the public has relied on for years... but now, they matter only to the extent that they offer value in their positions alone. Sorry, if they need to leave and take care of themselves without any salary, or insurance.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 6:30 am to Razorback Reverend
Nm has been placed on a shutdown
Posted on 11/14/20 at 8:30 am to Razorback Reverend
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The problem is the lack of ICU beds, hospital inventory...
We are quickly filling up, and when a stroke happens, heart attack, cancer problem, pregnancy issue... Beds are taken up by Covid.
We do need to mitigate the numbers, slow this thing down in our nation and in our state somehow.
All of this is factually correct, which is why keeping student athletes on campus is important. Even though they are very likely to be asymptomatic if they contract it, keeping them close to structure and top notch medical care is a much better alternative to letting them go home and become asymptomatic spreaders. I don't care about "having football", I've got enough to do on weekends, but it blows my mind the logic that is used by those that think college athletics is in any way a negative during this.
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IDK the answer completely. I don't agree with Biden of shutting it all down, but.... What then?
There is zero percent probability of a nationwide shutdown. There will likely be shutdowns in more cities and states, which makes sense because hospital capacity, as well as economics, are regional phenomenons. Even blue governors and mayors are getting a little gun shy about pre-emptive shutdowns after Nov 3rd, since the Nov 3rd election outcomes were a clear call for "extreme moderates", "radical middle", or whatever you want to call it.
This post was edited on 11/14/20 at 8:34 am
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:54 am to pioneerbasketball
New Mexico was pretty closed when we drove through last week. You get off the interstate and there were signs to the villages thst said basically you don't live here you can't go here.
Also any park on navajo land has been closed including 4 corners
Also any park on navajo land has been closed including 4 corners
Posted on 11/14/20 at 12:03 pm to Razorback Reverend
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IDK the answer completely. I don't agree with Biden of shutting it all down, but.... What then?
Don't give me options here.
And Biden, when he takes office, doesn't have the power to lock down the country.
Hell, I'm waiting for Asa to shut shite down again...he won't like what will happen.
This post was edited on 11/14/20 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/14/20 at 3:23 pm to pioneerbasketball
That is such bullshite. Asa is just another swamp creature.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 4:36 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
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Don't give me options here.
And Biden, when he takes office, doesn't have the power to lock down the country.
Hell, I'm waiting for Asa to shut shite down again...he won't like what will happen.
I am not sure how this is a response to me... What?
I haven't given you or anyone options.. in fact, I am looking for some personally. We are living our lives and not living in complete fear, but being respectful of the lack of ICU beds, those with medical conditions, and etal...
Posted on 11/15/20 at 6:05 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 11/15/20 at 6:59 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I haven't given you or anyone options.. in fact, I am looking for some personally. We are living our lives and not living in complete fear, but being respectful of the lack of ICU beds, those with medical conditions, and etal...
Look... I'm a moderate politically. I tend to split my vote based on the candidate.
It is time we take politics out of this. Do you have a bad outbreak of COVID? Yeah, shut things down in that area. Sorry. It will screw local businesses and workers, though we can alleviate that. Yes, it is going to be expensive. Welcome to the hundred year pandemic.
Do you not? Wear a F#cking mask out in public to keep it from getting that way. You can be all pissy about it once we have a vaccine but do what you have to do right now to get this under control.
We aren't asking folks to storm the beaches at D-Day here. Wear a mask, avoid large gatherings where you can't social distance, and wait for a vaccine. My third cousin, twice removed, had the virus and was fine is wonderful for him. Not so wonderful for the folks he infected and some of whom might have died.
Do you run red lights? Do you drive on the sidewalk? Do you get your jollies by setting fire to buildings with people trapped inside? If the answer to all of the above is no... then just wear a mask and hunker down until we get this under control.
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