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re: Why does Damien Harris hate Alabama?

Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:21 am to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12895 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:21 am to
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A lot of the Saban era guys were there for Saban not for Alabama. Their loyalty is to him not to the program. These guys are like rats fleeing a sinking ship.


If true these players would not speak the truth about the current program. They do it because the standard that Saban created is no longer there and they hate to see it. When these former players played yes, they played for Saban, but they also wore the crimson and fought hard to maintain that standard. Anyone that has done that hates to see what they help build disappear.

The real issue with the team right now is the people on the inside and the outside they refuse to see the issues. That refuse to accept our program is struggling and criticize anyone that suggests otherwise. The former players they actually help build it all we did is enjoy it. I am glad they still feel a connection to the program whether the truth they speak is not what we want to hear.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55941 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:14 am to
I have no doubt that Harris and Ingram are 100% crimson blooded Bammers.

But they are talking heads in sport media now, and they have unbiased non-homer opinions. They probably believe in their hearts that ND is a better team than Bama, and are more worthy of the playoffs. And they might be right.

My opinion is that ND won't join a conference and therefore shouldnt get rewarded for not having to play in a conference championship game, especially when they didnt have the premium wins that Bama has. Bama had to play an extra game against a team they already beat on the road while ND sat at home.

So I disagree with Harris and Ingram, and thats perfectly fine. Doesn't make them anti-Bama.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 10:16 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12895 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 11:05 am to
UA does not look like a playoff team and anyone realistically thinking otherwise is foolish. Does it mean that we cannot make a run no, and for a quarter or half here and there I think we have the potential to beat anyone if we can play a full game at our best.

I also do not believe ND should be in and not because of Alabama or how we look. ND arrogance has put them in this situation.

1) ND lost to Miami plain and simple which is what allow Miami to move ahead of them. That has nothing to do with Alabama. The issue is ND should have never been ahead of Miami in the rankings.

2) ND should be in a conference, and they would have been playing for their conference championship and probably have won and got in the playoffs.

3) ND agreed with the P4 conferences that the g6 would have a guaranteed spot.

None of those reasons had anything to do with Alabama. This is all on ND.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
2384 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:28 pm to
It’s funny because he’s not even remotely one of the best RBs over the past 20 years. Jacobs and Najee should’ve had more reps. He’s acting like Clemson didn’t absolutely kick the shite out of us in the 2018-2019 natty.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11401 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:46 pm to
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UA does not look like a playoff team and anyone realistically thinking otherwise is foolish.


Alabama played their best ball from game 2-7. From game 8 (South Carolina) through the game 13, they have been limping along with a very bad offense carried by a defense making timely stops. Both losses land mostly on the feet of the offense handing the other team points or setting them up well inside our territory. Alabama's defense is bend but don't break. When they're starting a defensive series at or near the opponent's red zone, there is not enough bending room basically. They want to make a team earn it by being methodical and stacking plays...an opponent only needs to be right a few times if they're already in the scoring area.

If you add in the abortion of an opener and the SECCG, Alabama has not looked like a championship caliber team for over half of the season.

Damien Harris, Mark Ingram, Marquis Maze, et al know what a champion looks like and they're calling a spade a spade. Some folks need a dose of reality. We're not cheerleaders on the sideline. It is okay to be negative when it is justified.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30901 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:54 pm to
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He loves Alabama but doesn’t like this staff is my read
I agree.
But folks around here need to grow up when it comes to chastising our past players publicly about their thoughts on the football team. These guys have sacrificed 100 times more of themselves to the school and team than ANY of us ever have.
When folks start stating rumors (without facts) about past and present players, it's time to take a deep breath, and get things right!
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9992 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:38 pm to
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If true these players would not speak the truth about the current program. They do it because the standard that Saban created is no longer there and they hate to see it. When these former players played yes, they played for Saban, but they also wore the crimson and fought hard to maintain that standard. Anyone that has done that hates to see what they help build disappear. The real issue with the team right now is the people on the inside and the outside they refuse to see the issues. That refuse to accept our program is struggling and criticize anyone that suggests otherwise. The former players they actually help build it all we did is enjoy it. I am glad they still feel a connection to the program whether the truth they speak is not what we want to hear.


The program is struggling? Relative to whom? Georgia? Ohio State? Oregon?

In a year where we defeat all of our biggest rivals, get most impressive road win of season...still in a transition period with new coach, we are in some sort of catastrophe because we limped into the SEC championship as top seeded team and had a terrible game against a team we already beat once?

The team that is "the standard" Deboer is 2-1 against...with a coach that has been there for 10 seasons.

Im sorry, I know everyone hates me for saying it, but if you cant shrug this game off and still enjoy Bama getting to playoffs, you have ridiculous expectations and youre only making yourself miserable.

The Saban era was an exception that will never be recreated. It wasnt even done during Bryant years. Even coach Bryant had a 3 year period where he was 18-13.

This team is flawed. Ty is flawed. The talent on the Oline is not good. The RB room is not in the same stratosphere of what it used to be.

Saban era is NOT the standard. Im sorry but its just not.

I was majorly bummed about the SEC Title Game too...I too have the same urge to think that anything other than Saban dominance is unsatisfactory....but 1998 me would be so damn pumped about the playoffs. 1998 me would be rallying the boys for a 10 hour road trip in a cramped camry to Norman(I did actually try this year). Wed camp out if we had to...to see this game
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4844 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:41 pm to
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The Saban era was an exception that will never be recreated. It wasnt even done during Bryant years. Even coach Bryant had a 3 year period where he was 18-13. This team is flawed. Ty is flawed. The talent on the Oline is not good. The RB room is not in the same stratosphere of what it used to be. Saban era is NOT the standard. Im sorry but its just not.


Nobody will hear you, it’s “get tough and run the damn bawll, Pawll, and bring back Cochran in the weight room and all will be right with the world.”
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9992 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:55 pm to
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Nobody will hear you, it’s “get tough and run the damn bawll, Pawll, and bring back Cochran in the weight room and all will be right with the world.”


The Cochran stuff I get such a kick out of. I was in those 2008-2010 weight rooms(seriously). Coch ran Moffits program verbatim. He was a fricking terrible strength coach...the only thing he did well was conveying the message that Saban wanted. Hed actually read the mission statement before every workout(and it was badass).

Saban was doing something that nobody else was doing...and it obviously gave us a tremendous advantage. The problem was the same thing Billy Beane ran into with his sabermetrics in Baseball...once everyone else starting doing it, the advantage started to fade away.

Every coach that left...brought the Saban program with them...until the only advantage we had left was the talent gap. Now that effectively is gone too...even OSU learned that the hard way
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12895 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:13 pm to
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we are in some sort of catastrophe


You do understand the difference between struggling and catastrophe?

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but if you cant shrug this game off and still enjoy Bama getting to playoffs, you have ridiculous expectations and youre only making yourself miserable.


One never said I was miserable. Not shrugging off anything or ignoring they way we have played the last half of the season or the lack of consistency from the start. Unless you fail to see that.

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The team that is "the standard" Deboer is 2-1 against...with a coach that has been there for 10 seasons.


We beat them last year as well and I guess that win defined our season as successful in your eyes as well?

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I was majorly bummed about the SEC Title Game too...I too have the same urge to think that anything other than Saban dominance is unsatisfactory


I have yet to say I expect another run like what Saban did or the same level of dominance. Please do not change what I said. I do however have an expectation with what we pay the staff and the level of the talent we have that they put a better product onto the field every game. Sorry if you prefer mediocrity.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
1537 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:15 pm to
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He does not hate Alabama.


Always amusing to see "fans" say someone that spent 4 years at a college busting their butt hates the team. Harris is crimson, through and through.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12895 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:15 pm to
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Alabama played their best ball from game 2-7.


Maybe for the season but nowhere near their potential.

quote:

Damien Harris, Mark Ingram, Marquis Maze, et al know what a champion looks like and they're calling a spade a spade.


Agreed
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
2384 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:52 pm to
They made millions of dollars off of this program. People can criticize if they want.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11401 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:59 pm to
Let’s just let everyone say what they please and stop being the thought police is my opinion.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
2384 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:01 pm to
Yep. We all love Bama no matter how we show it. It’s ok to be pissed.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
7765 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:18 pm to
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If he's got to be told that then he's already a lost cause.

While I generally agree with this statement, everyone has blind spots (even Nate Oats has 3 historically, and only shown any improvements in 1).

If someone can help him see them, maybe he can hire a staffer to focus on situational awareness prep and during the game.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30901 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:28 pm to
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They made millions of dollars off of this program. People can criticize if they want.
And how much of that money was yours? RIGHT! None of it, and while they were busting their asses in Tuscaloosa on scholarship, what were you doing for the program?
Listen, if you've got a problem with an Alabama athlete, that's fine. Just don't take it, along with all the rumors and innuendo to a public forum. They don't deserve that.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
2384 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 2:27 pm to
You don’t know how many games I’ve been to and all of the shite I’ve bought supporting that program. Go cry to someone that cares.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8484 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 2:54 pm to
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Damien and Mark Ingram should not be welcome back at our facilities any time soon.


Why? We've lost "the STANDARD"! They want them to get it back.
Posted by stewieie
Florida
Member since Feb 2020
247 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:48 pm to
I was shocked when Ingram won the Heisman. He did play hard and as Mal Moore said he fit what they were doing. I definitely do not have a problem with Mark Ingram. I agree with him and think losing games the way this team loses is disgusting. In 2010 when we lost three games I went to the bowl game in Orlando when they played Michigan State. That day they were as good or better than anybody in the country. The way they lost three games that year is not even close to how they are losing now. They lost to South Carolina because their quarterback had an out of body experience. They lost to Auburn because McElroy could not complete a ten yard pass to multiple wide open receivers in the second half when Auburn packed everybody in on the line of scrimmage. LSU was a hard out in those days. This coaching staff needs to wake up to what it takes to be competitive week in and week out.
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