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We need to see TY hit some deep balls tomorrow.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:30 am
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:30 am
If we can't accomplish that against ULM it means hes trigger shy and we are in a tough season.
If he can't move the balls consistently on ULM in the first half do we bring in Mack?
If he can't move the balls consistently on ULM in the first half do we bring in Mack?
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:46 am to crimsoncoded94
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We need to see TY hit some deep balls tomorrow.
If we can't accomplish that against ULM it means hes trigger shy and we are in a tough season.
Deep balls aren't the way you judge if someone is trigger shy. Those are usually somewhat predetermined off of iso looks and how the safeties are aligned and slower developing. Deep balls are easier for someone who is struggling to read progressions and play on time. It's why Milroe was so damn good with them.
Trigger shy is when on short and intermediate routes aren't being read quickly and the ball isn't coming out accurately in 2 seconds or less. If he is hesitant to trust the read and deliver a slant, seam, digs and curls fast and on time, then that's a guy who doesn't trust what he's seeing and playing behind the clock.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:53 am to RolltidePA
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Deep balls are easier for someone who is struggling to read progressions and play on time. It's why Milroe was so damn good with them.
I disgaree here.
Ty struggles with deep balls because he is late to throw them and they end up behind the WR as contested balls.
Milroe just heaved things. He has a rocket arm so sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't.
I will say that when FSU realized Ty Simpson struggled to throw vertically, they basically moved their entire defense up and created a shell. It's why I have said if KDB were actually smart he would open the QB position up to Mack and Keelon, give them some significant reps against a bad team (like Saban did with USF) and see if we have another direction we can go or if we have to find a way to scheme better with Ty's shortcomings
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:56 am to YStar
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Ty struggles with deep balls because he is late to throw them and they end up behind the WR as contested balls.
It seems like it's just boiling down that Ty just needs to play on time with all his reads and throws.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:04 am to RolltidePA
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It seems like it's just boiling down that Ty just needs to play on time with all his reads and throws.
Yeah that is what KDB said in his press conference.
However what I didn't like was how Wommack tried to conflate that to being the defense problem as well. Nope!
Ty Simpson being late on reads killed a couple TD passes and put him in sack situations. Only #74 was horrible pass blocking. Everyone else was decent. Ty just held on to the ball and when he saw pressure he did the same thing he would do in high-school; run backward which destroys you protection.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:04 am to crimsoncoded94
When we start showing any consistency at the line of scrimmage I'll start looking at everything else.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:07 am to YStar
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Ty just held on to the ball and when he saw pressure he did the same thing he would do in high-school; run backward which destroys you protection.
Nothing quite as fun as watching someone back themselves into the rushing lanes.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:07 am to Tide Groupee
He threw a prayer last year to Cuevas against Mercer for about 50 yards.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:43 am to JIB
If you believe Ty is the biggest problem on this team, then your color blind.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:27 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
We were set to have one big play deep when his arm was hit. RW was wide open and would only have one to beat and I like his chances. It might not have won the game but it certainly could have changed the momentum. Good route, good read, bad protection (probably 74’s guy).
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:39 pm to crimsoncoded94
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We need to see TY hit some deep balls tomorrow.
frick that, I want some RPO slants. With the talent we have at WR, those dudes should be able to turn anything into an explosive play (assuming they catch the ball
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:45 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
If we can't throw deep we won't beat anyone without a running game.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:55 pm to crimsoncoded94
Last week they tackled our receivers when they went deep
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:58 pm to crimsoncoded94
When you rewatch film of Ty, he actually made some good decisions and threw the ball pretty well. His deep shots left a lot to be desired, but I noticed on one of them, the LT gave him no time to let the receiver get open.
A couple of other times, Formby(?) just completely whiffed and let someone run loose, and that disrupted another deeper pass.
I don’t know. It’s hard to really see what Ty is capable of when the line just collapses.
A couple of other times, Formby(?) just completely whiffed and let someone run loose, and that disrupted another deeper pass.
I don’t know. It’s hard to really see what Ty is capable of when the line just collapses.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:24 pm to Bamafig
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We were set to have one big play deep when his arm was hit.
He missed Rico on a wide open TD because he held the ball too long.
That was the stuff KDB was referencing when he told the media, Ty needs to go with his reads and let the ball go.
He is literally waiting till he sees the white of eyes to throw. By then the ball is late.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:31 pm to YStar
Bingo.
He can do it, he just has to do it. If you catch my drift.
He can do it, he just has to do it. If you catch my drift.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:47 pm to crimsoncoded94
Anyone see any sort of kiffin play calling Saturday? Where a play set up another play call, such as a homerun throw? I didn't really see anything like that Saturday
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:38 pm to crimsoncoded94
Lot of interesting opinions here. I just know the game was moving fast for him and it was clunky all around. Have no idea if he can throw a deep ball to stretch the field.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:32 pm to crimsoncoded94
Of the dumb posts in this board this ranks top three. Ty just needed he’s OL to perform in a manner matching their rankings. He needed his WR to perform in a manner matching their rankings and a senior laden defense to actually get stops.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:29 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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If you believe that Ty is the biggest problem on this team then you’re color blind
You are right that Ty is not the biggest problem on this team. Multiple coaching issues are greater, as well as other player issues are as great or greater but Ty is definitely a problem, especially because he is the QB.
On the positive side of the ledger, and it’s important, he cares and gave great effort. Though not as fast or strong as Milroe, he is much more elusive when scrambling. He’s a tough and willing runner. He wants to be careful with the ball.
His constant lateness with pulling the trigger is a major issue. Don’t know how much was that he had trouble reading the defense or nerves or what. His lack of poise is another big issue that permeates the offense and radiates to the defense. When scrambling, he made multiple bad decisions on whether to run or pass. His arm is not strong enough to throw accurately when scrambling. He displayed little touch on his passes. He lost a fumble that fortuitously ended in the possession of Brailsford, and a couple of balls that DBs couldn’t handle, i.e., he could have easily had two or three turnovers. He sometimes bails from the pocket too quickly. Etc.
IMO, Alabama has little chance vs good teams with him at QB unless he dramatically improves, which is possible. But some of these issues have accompanied him since he arrived on campus. We can see now why Milroe, with his shortcomings, was chosen over him by two coaching staffs.
Playing QB at this level is very difficult. A small % of people on this earth can do it. You have to make difficult decisions often in less than a second. Then have the skill to throw the ball to a quickly moving target 60 yards away within a tiny window. And so on. All with the specter of a 320lb man moving at great speed being within a yard of taking your head off. Far less than 1% of the people watching the games can do it. That’s why a few of them make ~$60 mil a year. Ty seems a little short at this time of being able to do it with any consistency. It’s also likely that his lack of poise is contributing to the team’s nervousness.
Don’t know the current overall status of Russell, but he has the reputation of “just knowing” when and where to go with the ball and the ability to deliver it. If he is anywhere close to ready it would be worth a look. Maybe Mack too.
I know the Ty supporters hate posts like this but it is just an honest opinion. Maybe Ty can improve enough. If not, I hate it for him because he obviously cares about achieving his goal.
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