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Way more good than bad yesterday

Posted on 9/6/26 at 8:40 am
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
2032 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 8:40 am
I have high expectations for Bama and I understand most of us do too. HOWEVER, some of our fans have insane/ludicrous expectations.

People tend to forget there were a LOT of new starters out there on both sides of the ball. There are going to be growing pains.

I felt the O line played fairly well. Not great but not terrible. These five guys had NEVER played in a game together before. Yes, they practiced/scrimmaged together but there is a gigantic difference between a practice and a live game against another team in front of 80-100,000 screaming fans and on TV.

These guys will gel and improve at least somewhat, maybe greatly. I have faith Klemm will work tirelessly with them. Also, experience is an amazing teacher and honestly, there’s no substitute either. I’m confident the O line will improve.

I don’t know if we have a 1,000+ yd RB but I thought they did pretty well. I was really impressed with Crowell and Brown.

Defense played really well. Yes, they had one busted coverage but that happens from time to time with even NFL defenses. It’s gonna be OK.

I will say, Keelon played well. He wasn’t perfect but given this was his first start, I thought he did really well. He is absolutely gonna have to learn to slide or get out of bounds rather than take all those hits he took. I don’t think he can last an entire season like that. Still, I was impressed.

Anyhow, sorry for rambling but I hope those among our fan base that thought we played poorly can take a deep breath today and be a smidge more objective.

RTR!





Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4797 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 8:54 am to
I think we're gonna be alright but, for God's sake Grubb, just line up and run the play for once. All of the shifts and motion pre-snap are silly. I get it on some plays but every play, really? It kills any rhythm and is hard to watch.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13185 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 8:56 am to
13 and 17 are very good RB's. Both have to quickly get better at protecting 12. The sooner that duo takes all the snaps the better, 4 is a little better than last year and 6 is injury protection.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71761 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:01 am to
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All of the shifts and motion pre-snap are silly.


Yep.

I found myself rolling my eyes when it looked like we had five players moving/motioning pre-snap.
Posted by TideSaint
God's country
Member since Sep 2008
85391 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:04 am to
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13 and 17 are very good RB's. Both have to quickly get better at protecting 12.


I don't think Crowell even attempted to block someone when he was in there. He either ran a route or took the handoff.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26957 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:06 am to
Overall we re coming off a long stretch of great football with a program run by maybe the best to ever do it surrounded by elite talent and staff.

What we have now is a good solid coach with good people surrounded with good talent. It couldnt last forever. Kalen DeBoer is not Nick Saban Nobody is.

We went through this with Coach Bryant. Gene Stallings did a hell of a job Ill always wonder why he didnt stay longer the others were mediocre
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
14053 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:11 am to
The formational stuff is a big part of their approach but I am not sure how much it helps against high quality defenses.

You do all the motions and formation shifts to get defenders out of position or unsure of their assignment. That works well against less experienced, poorly coached defenses. It did not really move the meter against much of our conference competition and P4 OOC opponents.

There is a law of diminishing returns too. The more you do this stuff, the more likely you are to have a procedural error. Point being not only is it less effective against quality opponents but it is also more likely to harm you too.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
24765 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:12 am to
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Gene Stallings did a hell of a job Ill always wonder why he didnt stay longer


He left because of the AD.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13185 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:19 am to
17 had a swing and a miss on one attempt but he was all in. Both of these cats have it and it is clear. You could tell 17 had it at A-Day.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
2032 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:20 am to
Coach Stallings was basically run off by Bob Bockrath (AD at the time, if memory serves). I know CGS “resigned” but he was basically told to.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
5197 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:24 am to
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All of the shifts and motion pre-snap are silly.


I'd like to see a little more hurry up and hopefully we will when Keelon gets more experience.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
42009 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:26 am to
quote:

I felt the O line played fairly well. Not great but not terrible. These five guys had NEVER played in a game together before. Yes, they practiced/scrimmaged together but there is a gigantic difference between a practice and a live game against another team in front of 80-100,000 screaming fans and on TV.


The best OL in the Saban/post-Nick era was the 2012 group. People forget that the first 2-3 games they looked pretty average and had issues. Let's wait another game or so before we go full DefCon1.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7127 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:37 am to
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DefCon1


I appreciate your using that in the correct manner
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18673 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:47 am to
quote:

we're gonna be alright but, for God's sake Grubb, just line up and run the play for once. All of the shifts and motion pre-snap are silly. I get it on some plays but every play, really? It kills any rhythm and is hard to watch.


What offense is your team running?

Pre snap motion has been an important part of the Bama offense since Jim McElwain.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46533 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 9:58 am to
Pre-snap motion is fine when you get the playcall in in time for them not to have to rush all of it because the offense doesn't get initially set until there's < 10 seconds left on the playclock. That's why we get penalized for illegal shifts, illegal formations, and delay of game pretty much every week. The organization and attention to detail from our offensive staff is just not good.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
14053 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Pre-snap motion is fine when you get the playcall in in time for them not to have to rush all of it because the offense doesn't get initially set until there's < 10 seconds left on the playclock. That's why we get penalized for illegal shifts, illegal formations, and delay of game pretty much every week. The organization and attention to detail from our offensive staff is just not good.


I do think motion and resets have a diminishing return the more they’re used and the better the competition. However they never hurt us as bad under Saban’s sideline administration because they were methodical about getting plays in and coach lost his mind when it wasn’t.

This staff just isn’t organized enough. We’ve struggled with getting plays in timely and it leads to bad execution on the field and wasted timeouts. It’s been like this for the prior two seasons too. I wouldn’t chalk this up to new quarterback, center, etc.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
5197 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 10:15 am to
Whatever the problem with getting the plays and players in, even on special teams, needs to be corrected. It starts with the head coach who needs to get on some assistant's arse, GA, corrdinator, guy in the green shirt, or all of them.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
42009 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 10:16 am to
I just wish someone would do an objective cost/benefit analysis of how much of a tactical advantage is gained by motion/shifts/changing protection vs the delay of game/illegal motion and formation/missed and blown assignments. I probably scream at the TV at least 15 times a game "Just snap the ball!" when we get to the line of scrimmage and half the opposing defense is out of position or standing up looking at the sideline. If we just got set snapped the ball we could either get 7-8 yds running the ball or big completion to the uncovered receiver. But, no. What do we do?

G e t s e t
S h i f t f o r m a t i o n
C a l l o u t t h e M I k e
P u t a m a n i n m o t i o n
Zzzzzzzzzz...

By now, the play clock is under 5 seconds and the DL can just tee the F off. Or, we fumble frick around and have to burn a TO to not get a delay penalty.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18673 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 10:16 am to
quote:

The organization and attention to detail from our offensive staff is just not good.


It was the first game with a new QB. I promise you they arent gonna stop using the PSM stuff. It will get better.
Posted by In Hsv
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2011
346 posts
Posted on 9/6/26 at 10:23 am to
Totally agree with your assessment. Also, 110 on field temperature makes concentration difficult.
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