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re: Various updated CFP projections

Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:16 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:16 am to
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No it wouldn't have
Explain
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19231 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:17 am to
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What has SC done since losing to Alabama? What has Alabama done since beating SC?
All I hear is

Waaaaaahhhh, waaaaahhhh

The crying of babies because we lost a game. They can’t get past a loss because they don’t know what an actually bad Bama team is like. Us old guys still remember it.

Bama, AND Ole Miss were ranked ahead of South Carolina last week. None of the reasons both were have changed. Both beat Georgia, both beat South Carolina.

There’s one argument now, one only. Is Miami a more deserving team to be in the playoff or is Alabama or Ole Miss.

If you say Miami deserves to be in because they only lost 2 games in a garbage schedule. If Louisville is ranked after today they can say they beat 1 top 25 team. If Syracuse is ranked (and will be) they will have lost to a top 25 team. Neither of those options will be top 20.

Bama will have a top 5 win, probably 2 top 20 wins and a top 10 loss.

Ole Miss will have a top 5 win, and a top 20 win.

Compare those results and get back to us.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
27829 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:19 am to
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The crying of babies because we lost a game. They can’t get past a loss because they don’t know what an actually bad Bama team is like. Us old guys still remember it.


Tell me stories about the three loss national championship Alabama teams, grandpa.

A loss is one thing, a 21 point loss to a .500 team with Atlanta on the line hits different.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:27 am to
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Tell me stories about the three loss national championship Alabama teams, grandpa.


People have always called 2007 LSU one of the weakest champions in history because they had 2 losses. There will be like 8 teams in the field with 2 losses this season. Again, it's not the same standard anymore. There is a bigger field and, because of NIL and the portal, more parity than has ever existed in CFB. It's fricking stupid to apply old standards to the current situation.

You obviously don't want the regular season devalued, but that ship has sailed.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 9:31 am
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
27829 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:30 am to
2007 LSU won the SEC.

It’s fricking stupid to ignore the last two games. Three loss teams will get in. Alabama shouldn’t be one of them.

Lost by 21. Looked bad against Auburn. Alabama’s closing argument wasn’t enough to prove they deserve to be in.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 9:32 am
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:36 am to
What have you done for me lately has literally never factored into the committee's decision making process and there is ample proof of it.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
27829 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:38 am to
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It's fricking stupid to apply old standards to the current situation.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:44 am to
The thought process of how they go about picking these teams and the range of teams they are picking from are not related. How they go about differentiating 12 vs. 13 is unlikely to change from how they picked 4 vs. 5. Obviously the 12th best team in the country is going to have a much uglier resume than the 4th best. But you aren't even attempting to argue any of this in good faith, because you're a troll. I hope you have the day you deserve.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12867 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:50 am to
All Alabama had to do was take care of business against OU and they shite the bed.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
2883 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:51 am to
So blanking Mizzou 34-0 and LSU 42-13 doesn’t matter? Because last I checked South Carolina needed a last second touchdown to beat Mizzou the week after we throttled them and lost to LSU

You keep saying “recently” yet ignore it’s 3-1 versus 4-0 in the last month with a larger MOV
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 9:54 am
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19231 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:00 am to
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Tell me stories about the three loss national championship Alabama teams, grandpa.
2007 wasn’t that long ago, and a 2 loss LSU backed into the SEC championship, backed into the national title game, then won it. First 2 loss team to win it all in an environment where one loss usually put you out. 2 bad losses btw.

Different environment this year. You might want to listen to your elders and learn something.

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A loss is one thing, a 21 point loss to a .500 team with Atlanta on the line hits different.
No it isn’t. Because with the changes you look at teams more like you would the NCAA tournament.

BCS, we’d be looking at the winner of the big 10 championship and the SECCG would be playing for the title.

4 team playoff? Big 10 winner, SEC winner, Notre Dame, either a championship loser or the stinking Vols.

This 12 team playoff is a mess because of the automatic qualifiers. Just like the basketball tournament. How do they pick the at large bids? They don’t do it because someone lost a game they should have won, they look at their season and their schedule.

Anything else is guaranteed to blow this system up before it’s really even begun.



Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
4821 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:03 am to
Fear the thumb
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
4821 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:04 am to
Alabama has the better marquee win of the two. We beat Georgia. The end.
Posted by 11and18gggchamp
Tuscaloosa, Al
Member since Jan 2021
1680 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:18 am to
At the end of the day, you can make a case for Bama over Miami because of schedule. You can put Miami in because they only lost 2 games and more people wouldn't bitch about it, because they will if Bama is in. If they put us in, we should be happy about it and see what we can do. If they don't, we should accept the fact that we didn't do well enough at Vandy or OU.

The only problem I will have is if SC jumps us and is in. That will be some shite. Hell, all over espn, the commentators and pundits keep bringing them up. Even Herbie was stumping for them. So who knows.

If they go by schedule, Bama will have a good shot of making it. Then we have to be big SMU fans. TBH, if SMU loses, they may drop out too. Their schedule sucks too.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
4821 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:22 am to
I still think that head to head matters. We beat South Carolina and also knocked off Georgia. Beating LSU 42-13 in Baton Rouge and blanking Mizzou also has to mean something.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
11612 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:26 am to
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You seem to think getting blown out by Oklahoma and losing a close one to a 9-3 team won’t factor into this new decision.


You seem to think Alabama having multiple quality wins, playing in the toughest conference, and Miami having no quality wins and playing in a terrible conference won’t factor in their decision.

If they put Miami or SMU, if they lose the ACC conference game, in over Alabama they’re saying record matters more than strength of schedule.


I posted this on the scoreboard last night.

Alabama and Ole Miss beat SCAR so IMO it comes down to Ole Miss v Alabama

Alabama
Best OOC win- Wisconsin
Best wins- UGA, SCAR, Mizzou, LSU
Losses- UTk, Vandy, OU

Ole Miss
Best OOC win- Wake Forest
Best wins- UGA, SCAR, Arkansas
Losses- LSU, Florida, and a really bad UK

I know I’m an Alabama fan but we have better wins and Ole Miss has a worse loss.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 10:32 am
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
11612 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:34 am to
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this team doesn’t deserve a spot with three losses


Deserve is relative to who would be in over us. You believe Miami with their weak schedule is more deserving?
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
11612 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:37 am to
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You’re ignoring South Carolina going on the road and beating a top 15 team while Alabama struggled with a 5-7 team and looked like shite.


Alabama won by two touchdowns and the game was never in doubt. We beat SCAR head to head. Are you saying that doesn’t matter when everything else is equal?
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
4896 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:59 am to
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Bama really needed Georgia to lose.


Those ACC refs must really hate their conference.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
4821 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:21 am to
Bham4Tide has to be a troll account. Georgia winning helps us because it’s our marquee win.
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