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14&Counting
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
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It's done. It's over.


Is it?


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CapstoneGrad06
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
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It's done. It's over.


Clearly not. I guess you should give that history degree back.

This country is still reeling from the trauma of 1861-65.

And before you accuse me of promoting a “Lost Cause” narrative, I have long been in favor of these changes.


Fleurs
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
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This country is still reeling from the trauma of 1861-65.

And before you accuse me of promoting a “Lost Cause” narrative, I have long been in favor of these changes.

I'm glad we agree about this. The promise of Lincoln was obviously never fulfilled. Reconstruction was a failure and obviously did not go nearly far enough in addressing the real issues, many of which still exist today as you say here.

Great day for the University. A nice step in the right direction.
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imjustafatkid
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
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I don't need a defense of my stance as I'm not an out of touch Lost Cause apologist. It's done. It's over.


You're such a sad little man.


Fleurs
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
Actually, I'm pretty happy. About this and other things.

Some other people in the thread definitely seem like they're sad right now though, lol
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imjustafatkid
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
I wonder how long it will be before we remove all the monuments to football teams before desegregation.

If we're going to do stupid stuff for no reason, let's go all the way with it.


Bobby OG Johnson
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
At some point there will be nothing left to point to except a mirror


pvilleguru
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
Not to mention this monument is only about 1000' away from a literal slave cemetery.


imjustafatkid
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
Right? I know! We should remove all reference to any football team from before Alabama had a black quarterback. Or, wait...have we had a black head coach yet? We shouldn't be celebrating any of the teams at all.
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TideWarrior
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Not to mention it was erected by the United Daughters of the Confederacy, who was just trying to paint the CSA in the best possible light (and supported the Klan).


The Klan which was a paramilitary arm of the democratic party back then.


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imjustafatkid
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Not to mention this monument is only about 1000' away from a literal slave cemetery.


So...it was in an area consistent with other historical items from the period...?

If it was on the front of one (or all) of the surviving buildings the children defended, would that be better?
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TideWarrior
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
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The promise of Lincoln was obviously never fulfilled


That started on his own accord with the Emancipation Proclamation that did not end slavery as a whole.

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Reconstruction was a failure and obviously did not go nearly far enough in addressing the real issues, many of which still exist today as you say here.


Complete failure but it was never designed to unite people but create control for one side. I think to many people, probably based on how it is taught, fail to understand nothing was resolved for the slaves or their many generations that followed.


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JackieTreehorn
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
Guaranteed national titles in all sports and harmony among races achieved.


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pvilleguru
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
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The Klan which was a paramilitary arm of the democratic party back then.
Is this supposed to be some "gotcha" moment?


TideWarrior
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
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Is this supposed to be some "gotcha" moment?


No, more of an irony post. Nothing more.
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Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
These are the folks that we are dealing with today.

Please watch this for a great belly laugh and also sadness that these people are walking among us.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/1270135540344655872


TideWarrior
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Member since Sep 2009
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
[quote]These are the folks that we are dealing with today.

Please watch this for a great belly laugh and also sadness that these people are walking among us.

LINK ]

that is sad and funny at the same time


Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
The best part for me is when she reaches the part about the camo hat and the Liberal mob. I lost it


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JustGetItRight
Alabama Fan
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
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I think we won't do that and instead will just remove the plaques honoring treason.


You know that confederate veterans are by law considered US veterans right?


JustGetItRight
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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
On an oddly related note, the last person in the US getting a Civil War veteran's pension died two days ago.

Her father was a combat veteran of both the Confederate and Union armies - and y'all thought this transfer thing was something new....


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