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Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:56 am to
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:56 am to
Garland had 11 assists in the McDonald's All American game, so he probably can play point if his ego doesnt get in the way. If he is healthy, the Cavs probably consider him their future at point guard.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17214 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:41 pm to
You don't really need pass first point guards anymore, but my guess is defensively they'll be a nightmare if they play those two together regularly (granted I'm not an expert on Garland's defense, but they're both undersized and Collin's defense was BAD last year).

I do feel like Collin will actually respond to something like this pretty well. He seems pretty tough mentally, and the kind of guy who does well with a chip on his shoulder.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44400 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:29 pm to
Maybe I'm Gumping hard here, but I actually think Sexton will become a really good defender once things click for him and he starts being where he's supposed to be. Being in or going to the wrong place was what caused so many of his defensive issues. He's undersized, but he's one of those high effort, non-stop trash talk players who is always a pain in the arse for the guy they are guarding.
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
2137 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Whoever is managing the Cavs obviously aren't very good at their job.

They drafted a player with much higher potential than Sexton. I'd argue that they just chose talent over fit, especially if internally Sexton really was as divisive as what got reported. Sexton looks to be destined to be a good score first 3rd guard on a playoff team or a starter on a bad team and thats ok. That makes you tons of money.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12991 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:29 pm to
The point is interchangeable...imo no big deal beaides it may stunt Collins growth a bit. Seems as if teams are all trying to go the route the Warriors did with getting a lot of shooters. Only issue is that they have two of the all time best.
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
2137 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:19 pm to
O for sure, also both of the Cavs guards are still question marks as to their long term efficiency in the NBA. If it works out, awesome, if it doesn't they have basically two lottery tickets at hitting on a star guard.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

They drafted a player with much higher potential than Sexton.


People really do like to shite on a player that averaged 17 PPG on solid volume efficiency in his rookie year (not talking about you specifically, but in general). He even shot 40% on nearly 4 attempts per game from 3, which was considered one of his biggest weaknesses. The biggest complaint about him remaining? He’s not a true PG and while he’s an intense defender, gets lost on defense. Darius Garland is a player that went 5th in a 3-player draft. He was the 14th compositely ranked player in his recruiting class. Played 5 collegiate games. And went 5th in the draft. Think about that. His known flaws: bad defender and had more turnovers than assists in his five games.

Give me Sexton any day and all days of the week.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12991 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:16 pm to
Theyre just different players. It will be interesting to see how they are utilized. Just a bad decision imo if you intend on keeping Sexton. They will got abused by bigger guards.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:42 pm to
This is Cleveland we’re talking about. They make about 1 smart professional sports move out of every 10 they make. It looks like the Browns are finally putting a few good choices together. So now the Cavs are going to screw up everything they touch. Are you surprised? I’m not.
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4814 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:05 pm to
Agree with you BigBird,was about to say the same thing. What Sexton has more than anything is a fierce competitive nature,desire to work hard and harder to get better and not rest and rely on his talent. That is what a supreme athlete needs to achieve greatness.
NBA is full of athletic freaks but men are separated from the boys by the work put into their game. Obscene amounts of money kills the upward trajectory of most careers.
Motivation dies quickly. IF Sexton remains humble and dedicated to the game he can be a Hall of Famer.
Posted by CrimsonDynasty
Member since Jan 2019
733 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:26 pm to
Garland hasn’t proven anything to me and we already have “fans” proclaiming him being better than Sexton. It’s comical. Cleveland wants to build something similar to Portland. Sexton deserved to be on the first all rookie team this season. He will be an elite scorer one day.

Dude averaged 19 ppg once he became the starter and shot 40% from 3. One of the fastest players in the league and with his 6’7 wingspan plus his vert he can finish over bigger defenders. Go watch him cook Embiid.

Sexton needs to work on his playmaking and his defense but it will come. He’ll be a star in a few years. I honestly feel that if Sexton had played for UK or Duke he wouldn’t get near the amount of criticism.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

 player that averaged 17 PPG on solid volume efficiency


His player efficiency rating was only 12.1. That was #16 for rookies and #232 amongst qualified players
Per ESPN

He is a great scorer but he has a huge journey ahead of him to provide value as a point guard running the offense
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 9:30 pm
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:05 pm to
Enough NBA talk. Can we refocus this back on Alabama basketball?
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25558 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:49 pm to
Rumor from UK fans is that Blackshear is UT bound
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
4622 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:19 am to
Glad you said it. Thought I was in the wrong thread.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12991 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:55 am to
Man as dead as this thread used to be all basketball talk is welcome.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12619 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:24 am to
I’m all for teams returning to their traditional conference, but Big East is pretty lame now. Half the teams aren’t from the northeast.

I wonder if they’ll just drop down to FCS in football.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 9:52 am to
quote:

His player efficiency rating was only 12.1. That was #16 for rookies and #232 amongst qualified players
Per ESPN

He is a great scorer but he has a huge journey ahead of him to provide value as a point guard running the offense


Luka Doncic and even Trae Young had statistically 2 of the best rookie seasons in recent memory and they are 3rd and 5th in PER in their draft class last season. PER favors bigs, especially Rookie bigs, who don’t shoot many or any difficult shots, not volume scorers. Of the 15 players above him, 10 of them are bigs. I understand he has a long way to go to be considered a star, but to say that a rookie who ranked 14th in his recruiting class and only played 5 collegiate games has much higher potential than a player who scored 17 PPG with solid volume efficiency in his first season is absurd.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 9:53 am
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:01 pm to
People usually think the new guy or the backup is gonna be better. It’s ridiculous. It’s has a name, backup qb syndrome but it applies to all sports and all positions really.

quote:

Backup QB syndrome happens every year. There’s always a guy who seems like he could be the savior, even when you don’t need one. The backup always is filled with possibility, while the guy on the field is a known, limited, boring quantity.


One of my Penn State buddies was convinced that Miles Sanders was gonna be a better RB than Saquon Barkley last year.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:10 pm
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