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re: Transfers should have a 1 year ban on nil deals like old transfer rules
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:35 pm to AlterDWI
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:35 pm to AlterDWI
The NCAA just did an absolutely horrible job of getting out in front of this. There was a reason they restricted NIL before and it was because of everything we see now. It wasn’t about preventing players from making money from jersey sales. Maybe they thought they could win in court and keep on with the way it was, but they should’ve rolled out a plan before it ever got to the SC.
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Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:40 pm to FairhopeTider
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The NCAA just did an absolutely horrible job of getting out in front of this. There was a reason they restricted NIL before and it was because of everything we see now. It wasn’t about preventing players from making money from jersey sales. Maybe they thought they could win in court and keep on with the way it was, but they should’ve rolled out a plan before it ever got to the SC.
Likely because the NCAA wasn't used to doing that much work. They are lazy. Like you said, they should have a plan ready to go, but they aren't used to doing too much besides handing out bullshite infractions and penalties.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 6:05 pm to Bamafan24
Saw this elsewhere but a good way to make this fair would be that any team that takes a coaching change portal player should have the portal open up for their team…or at least the position group of the kid coming in. Why is it fair to Texas receivers to have to make their decision before knowing whether Sark is bringing someone in to start over them?
There’s got to be a way to curb turning a team into a Goldan Coral buffet.
There’s got to be a way to curb turning a team into a Goldan Coral buffet.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 6:28 pm to Bamafan24
Wouldn’t stop it. Getting around that wouldn’t be hard at all. Just need a one year no participation restriction on any transfer.
That alone would kill the multiple transfers we are seeing
That alone would kill the multiple transfers we are seeing
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:01 pm to InkStainedWretch
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This genie ain’t ever going to go back in the bottle no matter how many fans demand it on message boards, because the courts are 100% on the players’ side here. It is what it is. We adapt or die. It’s that simple.
Just wait....it will venture on down to High School sports also!
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:16 pm to PBD4BAMA
Yep. It will happen
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:22 pm to BamaGradinTn
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I've said it umpteen times: the entire rosters of the Patriots, Titans, and Falcons didn't suddenly become free agents when their coaches left. Alabama's roster shouldn't be either. It makes absolutely no sense to give college kids a benefit that the pros don't even have.
I saw a tweet today that UW has 1 player returning on offense. Their entire roster is gone. Insane.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:21 am to InkStainedWretch
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This genie ain’t ever going to go back in the bottle no matter how many fans demand it on message boards, because the courts are 100% on the players’ side here. It is what it is. We adapt or die. It’s that simple.
Amateurism is completely gone anyway, so NIL is just this stubborn refusal to accept reality and it's created a system that is anarchic and terribly imbalanced. College football should probably just take on a fully pro model at this point with contracts, salaries, salary cap, trading, etc.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 9:22 am
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:25 am to Bamafan24
I think if you're going to open the portal for specific teams for coaching changes, then you should open the portal for specific teams for roster changes (additions) as well.
In other words...yes, Sarkisian, you can poach Bama players for 30 days because of Saban's retirement, but the second you add one to your roster, the portal opens for your team too.
In other words...yes, Sarkisian, you can poach Bama players for 30 days because of Saban's retirement, but the second you add one to your roster, the portal opens for your team too.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:38 am to Bamafan24
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I’m all for kids benefiting from there name and image but this system is broken.
The real thing is that the players arent benefitting from their name and image, they are benefitting from the brand of the program. Nobody would give a flying flip about these kids id they didnt wear those colors.
Once they transfer, they should be forced to pay for the rights of anything they profited from using the school brand.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:46 am to TideCPA
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In other words...yes, Sarkisian, you can poach Bama players for 30 days because of Saban's retirement, but the second you add one to your roster, the portal opens for your team too.
100% agree. I think that’s a simple fix if they insist on having this window.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:58 am to FairhopeTider
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Seems categorically unfair that the transfer portal is basically a one way street when a coach leaves a program. Everyone can poach our roster but we can only go after Washington & Arizona players? At the very least, the portal should be delayed until a week after an HC is announced so ADs aren’t forced to rush the hire and that the new HC at least gets a shot at talking with the player before every other school has gotten in his ear.
If you take in a transfer, your own teams players should absolutely be able to transfer.
CFB absolutely has to break away from other sports and there has to be revenue sharing with players.
Just a friendly reminder that this is 100% the fault of the greed of the schools. When the schools transitioned their CFB programs from a student/alumni/community thing to a means to make the universities and themselves money, CFB as we knew it was dead in the water
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:59 am to Bamafan24
Fixing NIL and transfers is going to take ending amateurism, classifying the student-athletes as employees of the school or associated athletic 503, giving the student-athletes employees a union, and the revenue schools subordinating themselves to some sort of commissioner's office.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:25 am to Islander
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For instance, after Bond's catch, somebody shelled out a lot of money for tee shirts and other stuff. Now that he is gone, all that sunk cost is worthless. Somebody got left holding the bag big time.
If they ordered so many shirts that they're still holding pallets of them a month and a half later, then that dude is a shitty business man. There's a very small window to make money in something like that. And after losing to Michigan, nobody is gonna buy a grave digger shirt.
I understand your point but that's a bad example.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:30 am to InkStainedWretch
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And following up, the reason the pro teams don’t become free agents at the end of the season is that they have agreed to things that prevent that in collective bargaining in which the players and teams both had a voice.
This is the difference. Because the people at the top don't want to give a cut, there's are no proper contracts. And without a contract, both parties are vulnerable and can get fricked.
I know a guy who played for South Carolina in the early eighties. That is until he fricked his knee up, and they revoked his scholarship.
You don't see that often anymore with injuries. But it probably still happens at smaller schools. Getting crucified in the media is the only reason they wouldn't do it.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:31 am to Diego Ricardo
Those behind the curtain that made this mess Do Not want to fix what they created!
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:45 am to CCTider
That’s why I liked the guy’s idea who said let ‘em earn what they want, but make a scholarship a binding contract between the school and the player for 3 years. That IMO is fair and cognizant of today’s realities.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:05 am to InkStainedWretch
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but make a scholarship a binding contract between the school and the player for 3 years. That IMO is fair and cognizant of today’s realities.
When billions are being made, but the people risking their bodies aren't getting a cut, it'll never work. You'll end up with more backdoor agreements that are unenforceable. When coaches are making 8 figures per year, it's inevitable the players are gonna try to get theirs. Which is why we are where we are today.
But as I said earlier by someone else, people at the top don't want to fix it. Because they are the ones that are financially benefiting from it, without any risk to themselves.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:06 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Those behind the curtain that made this mess Do Not want to fix what they created!
A lot of college football's problems are essentially of this type: it is a problem for everyone except for the people in control of the thing.
I think this is mostly because college athletics is sorta like small-state competition that lends itself to this loose confederation approach where nobody's individual power is challenged too much. In other words, the whole exercise is about protecting fiefdoms.
What college football needs is an enlightened despot that can see above the petty interests and drive the sports toward a end goal with intentionality. Because everything is about not challenging the fiefdoms in college athletics, the sport grows with no design and it leads to irrational solutions.
This is one of core problems of college athletics. The other is more on the collegiate system altogether: it is predicating on exploiting cheap or free labor. College administrators never want to pay anyone a real wage other than tenure-tracked professors and they're deemphasizing those too. A lot of the amateurism system - outside the original player safety concerns in the Teddy Roosevelt days - was predicated on college administrators simply not wanting to be on the hook for paying the players. Paying labor in scholarships and getting more work out of them than the dollar amount of the scholarship is worth is the core principle of university labor acquisition.
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