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Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:43 am to UASports23
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:43 am to UASports23
In the past i would agree with you. Back when you got players largely through relationships. That is gone. Players today have zero team loyalty and only want the money. Doesn’t matter if your coach just started, a dollar is a dollar.
I know its oversimplified above but i stand by the overall premise.
I know its oversimplified above but i stand by the overall premise.
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:07 pm to Bamadog75
Agree Bamadog with Schumann
Think you want someone from the Saban/Kirby tree. Double bonus that he is defensive minded. So that side of the ball is locked down.
(hint hint kinda like our GOAT).
Then make a very select and wise choice for OC and we start rolling again. .
As another poster said, we could probably just surgically remove our DC which is the glaring problem. And do it pronto. Scrap the scheme and go install something different to address our weaknesses against the teams upcoming on our schedule.
I would like to think the offensive side is covered with KDB and Grubb. But that's also looking pretty suspect at the moment.
Think you want someone from the Saban/Kirby tree. Double bonus that he is defensive minded. So that side of the ball is locked down.
(hint hint kinda like our GOAT).
Then make a very select and wise choice for OC and we start rolling again. .
As another poster said, we could probably just surgically remove our DC which is the glaring problem. And do it pronto. Scrap the scheme and go install something different to address our weaknesses against the teams upcoming on our schedule.
I would like to think the offensive side is covered with KDB and Grubb. But that's also looking pretty suspect at the moment.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:28 pm to Bamadog75
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if we want Alabama back to being a top five team again we have to get Glenn shumann, he is Kirby's right hand man , the guys only 35 he graduated from Alabama , his father went to Alabama, he is a damn good DC
His father was one of my high school football coaches. He was a hard arse that I very much respected and would have run through a brick wall for. If Glenn is anything like his daddy, he would be a good head coach but is he ready for Bama and would he accept? He’s turned us down twice for DC.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:30 pm to jryanw
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This is the issue with firing him. If we don’t have a rockstar to replace him we shouldn't eat the 70m. We as bama fans just have to accept this is our Ray Perkins.
ray perkins at this time would be 1000 % upgrade
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:32 pm to LaneB
The Prodigal Son may need to return home.....
Butch Jones.
Butch Jones.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:48 pm to phil4bama
is he ready for Bama and would he accept? He’s turned us down twice for DC.
Being offered a DC coaching job and the head coach is way different, the guy is loyal to kirby and for that I respect him even more. He wouldn't leave kirby for a lateral move, but for the head coach he would be stupid not to. If his dad is what you say he is then he probably instilled not leaving unless it's a move up. Probably instilled loyalty and keeping your word. That's what we need leading our guys. He is a winner and disciplined coach learned from his father , kirby and saban . He is our best case scenario if I was GB.
Being offered a DC coaching job and the head coach is way different, the guy is loyal to kirby and for that I respect him even more. He wouldn't leave kirby for a lateral move, but for the head coach he would be stupid not to. If his dad is what you say he is then he probably instilled not leaving unless it's a move up. Probably instilled loyalty and keeping your word. That's what we need leading our guys. He is a winner and disciplined coach learned from his father , kirby and saban . He is our best case scenario if I was GB.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:52 pm to jryanw
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This is the issue with firing him. If we don’t have a rockstar to replace him we shouldn't eat the 70m. We as bama fans just have to accept this is our Ray Perkins.
Please don’t insult the memory of Ray Perkins … a good, misunderstood man and coach … by linking him to this current s**t show.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:54 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Meyer is also certifiable and I don’t know if he could handle the pressure in Tuscaloosa without cracking.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 1:02 pm to Bamadog75
There’s no vacancy yet but I think Schumann would be a good pick. Not because he comes from the Saban-Smart tree, insisting on someone from the Bryant tree hamstrung us in the past and we don’t need to start a new cycle of that mess. But because he checks a lot of boxes as a coach. He also would not be in a position to demand a huge salary and buyout although of course we should make it worth his while.
Golesh intrigues me. He’s an offensive guy and everyone is screaming defense, but that’s when you actually hire a competent defensive coordinator and hand him the keys to that side of the ball.
Golesh intrigues me. He’s an offensive guy and everyone is screaming defense, but that’s when you actually hire a competent defensive coordinator and hand him the keys to that side of the ball.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:13 pm to UASports23
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Also….the brightest thing about this situation is that KDB has fricked up so bad that now there is zero fears from candidates about replacing CNS. So far, KDB has ruined a product in barely over a season.
There should definitely be a “there’s no way I’ll suck as bad as that guy” vibe for whoever we may end up having to hire next if this thing keeps going in the current direction.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:17 pm to Bamadog75
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I didn't like this hire from the start, I watched his teams at Washington and while he did really good most games especially against good teams, he always struggled against the bottom teams , they won those games but barely.sometimes. he doesn't have the fire inside to motivate his teams for every game . The players are all motivated for big games , but they have to be ready to go for every game to be champions . Kalen is just not built for Alabama football.
I think Gene Stallings said in a press conference back in the 90s (paraphrasing) "if you don't think it is a big game then try losing it."
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:28 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Meyer is also certifiable and I don’t know if he could handle the pressure in Tuscaloosa without cracking.
If DeBoer were fired the recruiting class will be looking elsewhere. To be honest if the season got so bad to fire him the class would already be looking. So, the hire has to be a homerun to keep the class.
Right now, I suspect the people in charge behind the scenes are already looking at a contingency plan. The best the team can hope for by the end of the month will be 2-2 with a losing record by the end of October. I believe and hope there will be a path in place to change if needed as soon as the Iron Bowl is over to help save the class as well.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:31 pm to InkStainedWretch
Ray was a pretty good coach, good recruiter but holy cow, he was super prickly. My personal theory on him was that he was burned so many times by media types in NY who often said some not very nice things about him, sometimes vicious that he mistrusted ALL media, no matter where they were from.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:31 pm to RollTide4Ever
Can we hire Glenn Schumann as head coach?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:32 pm to Bamadog75
Schumann is who I want as well. Saban/Kirby tree. UA alum. Knows the culture and what it takes to win championships. Would probably be some growing pains like UGA had when Kirby took over, but I'd be willing to risk it.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:34 pm to Bamafan4evr12
Just bring back Pruitt as DC and half of these issues are fixed immediately.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:48 pm to Bamadog75
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but I'm telling everybody right now if we want Alabama back to being a top five team again we have to get Glenn shumann, he is Kirby's right hand man , the guys only 35 he graduated from Alabama , his father went to Alabama, he is a damn good DC , he knows what it takes to be great.
We can't afford to gamble by handing the keys to the kingdom over to a guy with zero head coaching experience and who's only been a co-coordinator for just a few seasons now.
The biggest bullet point on his resume being Kirby's right-hand man isn't a qualification and we can't gamble a blue-blood program on vibes and alumni connections, especially at this point.
And we've seen how most of Saban's coaching tree panned out. Pruitt was arguably his best DC but a trainwreck of an HC. Kirby was an anomaly.
I'd rather another school scoop him up and see how he fares there first before taking the chance on an unknown.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:50 pm to Amarillo Tide
Ray was just a grump, it was his nature.
I heard he mellowed greatly in his later years.
I heard he mellowed greatly in his later years.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 3:11 pm to TideWarrior
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The best the team can hope for by the end of the month will be 2-2 with a losing record by the end of October.
What? Why is that the best the team can hope for? I know we're all feeling pretty bad right now but damn.
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believe and hope there will be a path in place to change if needed as soon as the Iron Bowl is over to help save the class as well.
There is no path to saving the recruiting class if DeBoer is fired. If he's fired this season we'll see the same thing that happened when Saban retired but on a larger scale. Mass exodus in the portal and decommitments by all but the most loyal recruits.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 3:12 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
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We can't afford to gamble by handing the keys to the kingdom over to a guy with zero head coaching experience and who's only been a co-coordinator for just a few seasons now.
The biggest bullet point on his resume being Kirby's right-hand man isn't a qualification and we can't gamble a blue-blood program on vibes and alumni connections, especially at this point.
And we've seen how most of Saban's coaching tree panned out. Pruitt was arguably his best DC but a trainwreck of an HC. Kirby was an anomaly.
I'd rather another school scoop him up and see how he fares there first before taking the chance on an unknown.
I see where you're coming from , but it can't get much worse than what's coming down the road and we hired one of the so called top guys for the job. Kirby likes this guy he was one of his first hires when he got the Georgia job. He has stayed loyal to kirby and Kirby's defense has not disappointed . He is kirby 2.0 young hard nosed and knows what it takes to win just like kirby did . Dan lanning come from that tree and has done pretty good . Shumann is home run hire , he is what we need , not the splash kalen was but what we need , he can recruit, he can coach D he is an alumni, his dad is an alumni, his dad was a great highschool coach so this is in his blood. He didn't play football but he is damn good football coach and plus he wouldn't cost as much as a big name coach.
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