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Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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The Mitchell's numbers indicate solid defenders and refounders with very little offensive game. I'm sure Muss has a specific idea of how he wants to use them.
I do wonder if this is any indication of what Williams is going to do.
We are rumored to be in the mix with the big from Arizona St, if that is true it certainly means to me that Jaylin will be gone.
I'm not super excited about these twins but I'm guessing Muss might be adding them as a way to get Jaylin to play as a 4 more instead of the 5 which would be his more natural position in the league.
This team needs a 3/D wing really badly though imo
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:07 pm to rockiee
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This team needs a 3/D wing really badly though imo
Jusaun Holt
Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:12 pm to Chadaristic
Backing my way into the efficiency numbers and making educated (probably not that educated) guesses on numbers for next season for a possible roster (it's all very scientific, clearly).
Here is 2021, 2022 and then the 2023 projection. I lowered the SoS adjustment as I don't think our schedule next year will be QUITE as insane as this year (though still very good).
Here is 2021, 2022 and then the 2023 projection. I lowered the SoS adjustment as I don't think our schedule next year will be QUITE as insane as this year (though still very good).
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:50 pm to Bamafan18
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Gary just entered the portal
I love him, but I thought he might have transferred after last year. He's just not really a great fit for what Oats does. That said, I'd rather have him or even Holt than Gurley. In theory, Gurley is a better fit. In reality, he's an unathletic, mediocre-shooting 4, that has never out-competed anyone for a rebound in his life. But hey, on paper, he's a "big" that can draw the defense out. Here's to hoping the young guys beat him out.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Basically all of our production from last year is gone. Having a totally new team is exciting but these guys will have to come in producing. We have to land difference makers in the portal not just contributors.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:53 pm to Allthatfades
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Basically all of our production from last year is gone. Having a totally new team is exciting but these guys will have to come in producing. We have to land difference makers in the portal not just contributors.
What is interesting if you really look at 2021 and 2022 is that the biggest issue wasn't necessary the top guys. It was that outside of 2-3 guys we had a bunch of negative players in 2022, whereas in 2021 we had a bunch of positive contributors outside of the 3-4 main guys.
Herb, Shack, Ellis and Petty were great in 2021, but guys like JQ, Gary, Primo, Reese and Bruner were all net positives.
In 2022? Ellis, Bediako and Shack were net positives. JQ, Gurley, Davison and Miles were all net negatives, and Gary was a net positive but seemed to regress and stop playing as the year went on. JQ and Davison being so average offensively combined with being terrible defensively just kind of torpedoed the season all along.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Gary gave his all when he was out there. I think he can be a great asset to a team in the right role.
Like If I’m Mississippi State, Ole Miss, or Georgia I am 100% reaching out to Gary. He would have been a great fit at South Carolina if Martin kept the job.
Like If I’m Mississippi State, Ole Miss, or Georgia I am 100% reaching out to Gary. He would have been a great fit at South Carolina if Martin kept the job.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:11 pm to Chadaristic
Is JD Davison a quality NBA level pick?
I know the history of the NBA draft puts a lot of weight on potential, rather than results.
I know the history of the NBA draft puts a lot of weight on potential, rather than results.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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In 2022? Ellis, Bediako and Shack were net positives. JQ, Gurley, Davison and Miles were all net negatives, and Gary was a net positive but seemed to regress and stop playing as the year went on. JQ and Davison being so average offensively combined with being terrible defensively just kind of torpedoed the season all along.
This is a huge oversimplification. In reality none of them were actually net negative players.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:21 pm to mistaken4193
Yeah I'd have rather kept Gary than Miles or Gurley. I'd guess the fact that he just can't dribble or shoot at all is probably a big reason why he got pushed out of the rotation and into the portal. Gurley shot fairly well at Furman, so they are probably hoping that he has a bounce back year.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:24 pm to Crimsontide1713
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This is a huge oversimplification. In reality none of them were actually net negative players.
Just have to disagree, I guess. Specifically regarding JD, JQ and Miles.
When you average 4+ turnovers per 40 minutes, consistently get beat up top off the dribble and throw the rest of the defense into chaos and shoot under 55% eFG%.........it's hard to be a net positive.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:25 pm to Bamafan18
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This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 7:20 am
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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When you average 4+ turnovers per 40 minutes, consistently get beat up top off the dribble and throw the rest of the defense into chaos and shoot under 55% eFG%.........it's hard to be a net positive.
Was this JD or Quinerly? Or both? I didn't think Quinerly's turnovers were quite that bad. The matador defense definitely applies to both and the sub 55 eFG% applies to both too, no?
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:33 pm to Robot Santa
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Was this JD or Quinerly? Or both? I didn't think Quinerly's turnovers were quite that bad. The matador defense definitely applies to both and the sub 55 eFG% applies to both too, no?
Turnovers per 40 Minutes
- JD Davison - 4.5
- Jahvon Quinerly - 4.0 (3.7 in 2021)
eFG%
- JD Davison - 52.1%
- Jahvon Quinerly - 47.4% (56.6% in 2021)
Defensive Rating as a % of Team Defensive Rating
#1 - Charles Bediako (103.4%)
#2 - Keon Ellis (103.0%) (104.2% in 2021, #1)
#6 - JD Davison (99.8%)
#10 - Jahvon Quinerly (95.5%) (93.3% in 2021, #12)
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Turnovers per 40 Minutes
- JD Davison - 4.5
- Jahvon Quinerly - 4.0
eFG%
- JD Davison - 52.1%
- Jahvon Quinerly - 47.4%
This is so, so bad, but also shows how effective our offense is. Producing one of the best offenses in the country despite having two turnstiles/turnover machines who are complete black holes on offense in your starting back court is pretty impressive.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:40 pm to Robot Santa
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This is so, so bad, but also shows how effective our offense is. Producing one of the best offenses in the country despite having two turnstiles/turnover machines who are complete black holes on offense in your starting back court is pretty impressive.
The way we play just makes the floor so high on offense, even for teams that can't shoot and turn the ball over a ton.
And it doesn't make your defense any worse - our defensive issues this year weren't related to play fast at all. We were actually better defensively when other teams went fast because we didn't have to defend multiple passes, screens, drives, etc.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Mark Sears (2022)
- 3.6 TOV/40
- 50.4% eFG%
Jaelin Llewellyn (2022)
- 2.2 TOV/40
- 53.2% eFG%
- 3.6 TOV/40
- 50.4% eFG%
Jaelin Llewellyn (2022)
- 2.2 TOV/40
- 53.2% eFG%
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:45 pm to Robot Santa
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Was this JD or Quinerly? Or both? I didn't think Quinerly's turnovers were quite that bad. The matador defense definitely applies to both and the sub 55 eFG% applies to both too, no?
I'm sure someone tries to track this but from a guy who watches every game and is way to invested:
the main difference in JD and JQ's turnovers were that JQ made a lot of his in situations that did not lead to run out easy baskets the other direction.
There were a lot of games where JQ and JD both had 4 TOs but JQ's led to about a difference of -1 on the scoreboard just for the lost possession getting stripped in the lane whereas JD's all led to an immediate dunk (often a +1) or 3 pointer in transition the other way and ended up being around -10 on the scoreboard.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:45 pm to wm72
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I'm sure someone tries to track this but from a guy who watches every game and is way to invested:
the main difference in JD and JQ's turnovers were that JQ made a lot of his in situations that did not lead to run out easy baskets the other direction.
There were a lot of games where JQ and JD both had 4 TOs but JQ's led to about a difference of -1 on the scoreboard just for the lost possession getting stripped in the lane whereas JD's all led to an immediate dunk (often a +1) or 3 pointer in transition the other way and ended up being around -10 on the scoreboard.
Agreed
JD's turnovers were almost always live ball situations and most of them ended in run outs.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Do we think the chances of JQ returning are increasing?
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