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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:32 pm to
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Reid is our best defender, he needs to be the 3 or 4, because while Stevenson has actually been decent on defense, he's just a black hole for the most part on offense. MoD is even more of a offensive liability than Stevenson


Mo is our best rebounder by a good bit. His shot isnt great but he is a decent passer. I dont think Mo is looking to score a lot of baskets. Jarin is wanting to be a scorer. But Mo wants to be a junkyard dog. Our offense can use an extra passer/rebounder over an extra shooter that isnt shooting well.

I think we could use Mo at the 4 and he would be more effective on offense than as a 3. He probably cant guard a true 5 with a good post game. But there will be games where we could use him in the front court.

Reid is our most athletic player. He is huge and can really move. He reminds me of a Gerald Wallace as a freshman. He is a problem for other teams. His potential is enormous. Oats has made it a priority to try to get him going.

Jarin is struggling but Oats is trying to get him started too. He is getting the Alex Reese treatment from our fanbase right now. But he has big potential too. It just needs to click. But his minutes will have to go down until it does. I really think he could benefit from trying to do less.

Cliff is better than Pringle but not better than Bediako. Cliff has good hands, but we really dont get him involved on offense. His shot blocking hasnt shown up a lot yet.

I havent watched a ton of other SEC teams yet this year. And nowadays its nearly impossible to keep up with the rosters of the whole conference. Does anybody know what kind of front court talent we are up against in the SEC? I know about Broome in Auburn. And their other big is good too, Cardwell i think. But how many teams have a really strong front court?

Posted by A-TOWNUAFAN
Alabama
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:51 pm to
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I know about Broome in Auburn. And their other big is good too, Cardwell i think. But how many teams have a really strong front court?


Grant will have a long night with one of these
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:05 pm to
Maybe. The key for our team is shot selection.

We have got to get better about some of our low percentage shooters taking low percentage shots.

But also i think we have guys that can attack some bigs. In particular if we can get some slashing looks for Derrion Reid it will cause opposing bigs to come out and deal with him. The huge 6'10 guys arent too worried about little guards driving in and looking for layups. Reid/Grant/Mo can get in the lane and go up real strong. I also really like what ive seen from Youngblood around the basket. He has really good patience for a guard and he uses his body well.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:47 am to
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Grant will have a long night with one of these
Auburn this year is going to be a heavy Mo D type of game, likely with Grant at the 5.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:54 pm to
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More on Mallette - he started his season @UNC, vs. Creighton, and at ND, which isn't an easy stretch. Yet here are his stats per 40 minutes: - 17.7 points, 11.0 rebounds, 1.0 assist, 3.3 steals, 0.0 turnovers, on 60% shooting (50% from deep)

DAWG


This just makes me smile.

Mallette very well may have the highest basketball IQ of any of our scholarship players. He seems to know what to do and when to do it, both for offense and defense. Add that to his hustle, and the guy is a dream for coaches. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked to see Mallette end up in coaching when his playing days are over.

Trelly and Youngblood seem to be high Bball IQ guys as well, but a lot of our other guys have a lot of talent but may lack instincts or the basketball IQ needed to function at such a fast pace consistently. Maybe Philon would have it if he had 2-3 years experience.

I wouldn’t qualify any of our guys as low IQ players, but they all seem to be around average or just modestly above/below average. I’ve said it before, but I’m really thankful Reid stopped trying to force so much offensively and generally lets the game come to him. He’ll still jack 3s without a care in the world, but his driving into traffic hasn’t been as out of control as it was in scrimmages and early games.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:44 pm to
Our ladies just beat Michigan State who was #15 and undefeated heading into this game.
Posted by passthetylenol
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
683 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 6:12 pm to
Roll Lady Tide! Get those wins before facing the SEC gauntlet.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:48 pm to
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wouldn’t qualify any of our guys as low IQ players, but they all seem to be around average or just modestly above/below average.


Strong disagree. We have Sears, Nelson, Youngblood, Cliff, and Mallette who have played about as much college basketball as anyone, ever. They are all very smart players.

We also have young players with tremendous pedigree.

Who the frick are you (BamaBravesPackers) to call these players average or below average IQ basketball players? How do you support that claim? They are ranked top 10 in the country and some are coming off a final four run.
Posted by BigFolks6347
Alabama
Member since Sep 2022
2381 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:25 pm to
He’s not insulting them as a person he’s strictly talking about their in game play. He’s talking about basketball iq. I agree some of our players lack situational awareness. Like Sears driving to the hole with no plan. Or Stevenson and Sherril taking every three they see. Jumping in the air to make a pass and turning it over. Stevenson is a turnover waiting to happen when he drives. He dribbles wildly and too fast.
Posted by bamagoat
Member since Jun 2023
729 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:11 pm to
I said before the season started that Stevenson needed to develop his 3PT and FT to get into the rotation. And I said that Mo D and Reid needed to take Stevenson's time. And I said that Mallette was better than Stevenson.

When I said this, everyone called me a troll and criticized me.

But in the end, my opinion was proven right. Now everyone is criticizing Stevenson.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25564 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:26 pm to
People called you a troll because no matter what happened during a game, your only post was to come shite on Jarin. The extent to which it went was (is) weird.
Posted by bamagoat
Member since Jun 2023
729 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:57 pm to
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People called you a troll because no matter what happened during a game, your only post was to come shite on Jarin. The extent to which it went was (is) weird.


The reason I said that was because of the preseason games.
Stevenson showed all his weaknesses in the 2 exhibition games.
His 3PT, FT, and ball handling were terrible, and he couldn't guard a bigs even though he's 6' 9".
I didn't think he improved much from last season. His slight weight gain really didn't mean anything. He's not very athletic and his wingspan is short, so he definitely needs to develop his 3PT.
I told him back then that the only thing he can do this season is spot up, and if he doesn't make 3PT, he should be out of the rotation.

Because the roles he can play, other players can play too.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25179 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 11:29 pm to
Yep. Nobody gives a shite about criticism. It's a huge reason why I avoid the big Bama message boards. It was just at an absurd, obsessive level.

I've actually been watching a ton of random arse basketball games lately. I've been playing around with ESPN+ and an pirate streaming app. It's hilarious, because the pirate app works way better the ESPN app. I'm using one of the most powerful streaming devices on a fiber network, and the ESPN app is slow as hell and buffers like crazy. Meanwhile, I'll stream the same game on the pirate app without a problem and the same quality.

And this app has stuff from all over the world. I've watched Aussie NBL games, the Japanese league, even a Kazakhstan minor league game. It's pretty wild to see how many Americans are playing in the different leagues.
Posted by GoodTalkRuss
Member since Dec 2019
1824 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:38 am to
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Or Stevenson and Sherril taking every three they see.


Might seem absurd, but that's Nates's offense. If you are open you are supposed to shoot and that applies to both of them as well. The book on Sherrell and Stevenson is that they were both supposed to be bigs that could force opposing bigs away from the basket with their perimeter threat. Unfortunately it's backfired a bit as other teams are inviting them to shoot (as well as Grant). The difference with Grant is he will still do a lot of dirty work in the post and be a factor either way. For Stevenson and Sherrell, right now, it seems opponents have a very specific formula against them.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:57 am to
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The difference with Grant is he will still do a lot of dirty work in the post and be a factor either way. For Stevenson and Sherrell, right now, it seems opponents have a very specific formula against them.


I think Sherrell has been a good rebounder. He is just taking too many 3PAs. I would prefer we put him down low and see if he can get easy buckets and fouls. His size is something we should take advantage of; his shooting ability isnt why he has a scholarship.
Posted by GoodTalkRuss
Member since Dec 2019
1824 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:38 am to
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I think Sherrell has been a good rebounder. He is just taking too many 3PAs. I would prefer we put him down low and see if he can get easy buckets and fouls. His size is something we should take advantage of; his shooting ability isnt why he has a scholarship.


Im talking more specifically about offense. Leaving Grant open isn't as effective of a strategy because he will still work his way into the post off the dribble and get buckets when we need them. Sherrell is a fairly solid rebounder on the both ends. The problem with Sherrell and Cliff is, somehow, they both have been head scratching liabilities on defense. I think the whole conversation would be a moot point if Sherrell and or Cliff could be fairly menacing defensively, but neither can manage to stay in the game for extended periods because they both appear to piss Nate off within 5 minutes and he eventually just goes small.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 8:39 am
Posted by Bryant91092
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:44 am to
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Hopefully this helps Creighton improve and makes our win look a lot better come March.
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
1106 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 5:18 pm to
AU looks like a Final Four lock. They won’t lose a game at home and might only have 1-2 road losses in the SEC. None of their games are close.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9193 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 5:26 pm to
Just absolutely blitzed Purdue
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4478 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 5:29 pm to
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AU looks like a Final Four lock. They won’t lose a game at home and might only have 1-2 road losses in the SEC. None of their games are close.


They're good. It's still just December.
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