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Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:33 am to DT55Forever1
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:33 am to DT55Forever1
Yea I'd agree about the entrance, and just kind of the general outer ring of it. I love the fieldhouse look, but it kind of looks like an old fieldhouse that was then renovated with new additions around the ring of the outside.
I dunno, nothing that I really care too much about, because (a) it's a new arena and (b) the inside looks incredible.
I dunno, nothing that I really care too much about, because (a) it's a new arena and (b) the inside looks incredible.
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Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:34 am to Bamafan18
What do we name it?
Do y’all think Byrne will look for Sponsorship to name it or will he name it after somebody?
This is gonna get downvoted but I do think “The Plaid Palace” would actually be a cool name
Do y’all think Byrne will look for Sponsorship to name it or will he name it after somebody?
This is gonna get downvoted but I do think “The Plaid Palace” would actually be a cool name
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:39 am to mistaken4193
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What do we name it?
Do y’all think Byrne will look for Sponsorship to name it or will he name it after somebody?
This is gonna get downvoted but I do think “The Plaid Palace” would actually be a cool name
I'd guess that it will either have a corporate name or a donor name attached to it in some way. Could be wrong, though.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:02 pm to BigBird09
quote:I think that we could build around a 12K, and get the atmosphere we're looking for. Build the first 9-10K "high and tight", then the other 2-3K similar to mezzanine seating.
I'm for what gives us the biggest home-court advantage. And with most new arenas being built to about this capacity, I assume tacking on much more would affect the environment/design. At this size, every single game should have a great environment.
If the school doesn't look after its alum (regular boosters), and have available seating for them for conference games, they'll have hell to pay. We older folks remember when 12-15K for most wasn't that unusual.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:07 pm to coachcrisp
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Greg Byrne: “We’re going to need to continue to raise money for the projects. We’ve been fortunate to have some success with the generosity of our donors and feel like there’s more opportunity for other people to get involved to make this a reality."
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:08 pm to Chadaristic
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Greg Byrne: “I think I’ve been pretty consistent in my messaging that you build your church not necessarily for Easter Sunday but for the other 51 weeks of the year."
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:09 pm to mistaken4193
I meant to upvote, not downvote my fault 
1. Sponsor name
2. CM Newton Arena
Longshot names:
3. The Plaid Palace
4. Something related to Luke Ratliff
1. Sponsor name
2. CM Newton Arena
Longshot names:
3. The Plaid Palace
4. Something related to Luke Ratliff
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:10 pm to Chadaristic
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Greg Byrne: “I think I’ve been pretty consistent in my messaging that you build your church not necessarily for Easter Sunday but for the other 51 weeks of the year."
But what if you build it for the 51 week average that doesn't even include Easter in the numbers
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:15 pm to Chadaristic
quote:I'm not referring to the major donors. I'm talking about the thousands of every-day alums who want to be able to attend games on a regular basis. Their support is very important, also.
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Greg Byrne: “We’re going to need to continue to raise money for the projects. We’ve been fortunate to have some success with the generosity of our donors and feel like there’s more opportunity for other people to get involved to make this a reality."
Again, I'm confident that a 12K facility with the student section on the floor, and the majority of seats being built "high and tight" to the floor can be accomplished.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But what if you build it for the 51 week average that doesn't even include Easter in the numbers
That's my issue with a 10k capacity. We probably average that, or a little more, for conference games during an NIT year. I honestly don't care if we only have 8500 people in a 12,000 seat arena for a Tuesday night game against Jacksonville State or USM in November. If we ever need a raucous, near sellout type atmosphere to gain an edge in those games then the season is pretty fricked anyway.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:23 pm to Robot Santa
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That's my issue with a 10k capacity. We probably average that for conference games during an NIT year. I honestly don't care if we only have 8500 people in a 12,000 seat arena for a Tuesday night game against Jacksonville State or USM in November. If we ever need a raucous, near sellout type atmosphere to gain an edge in those games then the season is pretty fricked anyway.
Yea, exactly why I don't get the 10,150 number instead of 11,500 or 12,000. 8,000 people in a 11,500 seat building is still a very full gym - and if students are filled you almost won't even be able to tell the difference (especially on TV and with noise). And I think it's been proven that if we are any good at all, our minimum attendance figure is somewhere around 7,500 to 8,000.
However, we will have 90-100% filled in a 11,500 arena for every conference game, every semi-big OOC game and every weekend game.
I mean, people like my dad and TideCPA and Bryant are going to end up getting squeezed out of season tickets.....which just seems entirely unnecessary. I DON'T WANT it to cost $250 to get in to a conference game like Auburn is right now. That ISN'T A GOOD THING.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
That is selfishly my only concern about the smaller seating capacity. I was actually talking to my dad about beginning to donate to the CTF to inflate our tide point total because I don’t know if just buying season tickets and getting 1 point a year will be enough when this thing opens up down the line.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
We are averaging 11,159 in Tuscaloosa games. That is fannies in seats, not tickets sold.
The only game below 10,000 was S Alabama which was on a Tuesday night in a pouring rain storm.
sdst 10,546
usa 9,038
oak 10,330
hou 10,613
jax 10,064
tenn 10,427
aub 13,474
lsu 10,368
miz 10,799
baylor 14,474
The only game below 10,000 was S Alabama which was on a Tuesday night in a pouring rain storm.
sdst 10,546
usa 9,038
oak 10,330
hou 10,613
jax 10,064
tenn 10,427
aub 13,474
lsu 10,368
miz 10,799
baylor 14,474
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:44 pm to McGregor
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We are averaging 11,159 in Tuscaloosa games. That is fannies in seats, not tickets sold.
The only game below 10,000 was S Alabama which was on a Tuesday night in a pouring rain storm.
sdst 10,546
usa 9,038
oak 10,330
hou 10,613
jax 10,064
tenn 10,427
aub 13,474
lsu 10,368
miz 10,799
baylor 14,474
Yep - and those numbers are pretty much dead on consistent going all the way back to the Gottfried era outside of years where we are bad and enthusiasm is at an all time low (last 2 years of CMG, last year of Grant).
I mean I guess their goal is to have a 100% full house basically every night. That's fine, and it is probably great for atmosphere and TV, but it's going to kick out a bunch of loyal basketball season ticket holders and make getting into a game really, really hard for a lot of folks who like going to games. It just seems like adding an extra 1,000-1,200 seats would not be a big drag on the atmosphere goal and would be let a lot of current fans/donors keep their seats. But who knows.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:45 pm to Bryant91092
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That is selfishly my only concern about the smaller seating capacity. I was actually talking to my dad about beginning to donate to the CTF to inflate our tide point total because I don’t know if just buying season tickets and getting 1 point a year will be enough when this thing opens up down the line.
My dad has had season football tickets since 1993 and basketball tickets for 2 years now (and only because they just moved to Tuscaloosa after retirement or it would have been both since 93), so he's in a decent spot on the list but definitely not at the top.
He doesn't think there is any shot he gets them at a new arena with that seating number. And it definitely makes him pretty sad.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
If it makes him feel any better, tell him he’s way ahead point wise of TD user Bryant. Even a yearly donation of $500 or $1,000 won’t catch me up to him
Not being an OT baller and being able to buy my way to the top is gonna come back to probably bite me. I am hopeful that I’ll still be able to get the tickets though when the time comes even if it’s an upper deck corner.
Not being an OT baller and being able to buy my way to the top is gonna come back to probably bite me. I am hopeful that I’ll still be able to get the tickets though when the time comes even if it’s an upper deck corner.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The Houston game would've had another 1500 if it didn't start at 9pm. I don't that's unreasonable.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I've never understood the emphasis on the smaller arena anyway. I guess it could increase crowd noise and make it look more full on tv but my issues with Coleman have more to do with seating around the court and an updated look/feel.
If it's set up correctly, I'd like to see a 13-14,000 seat capacity.
Having it small will basically price me (and a lot of other real fans) out of attending. I have a family of 5 and won't be able to afford it.
If it's set up correctly, I'd like to see a 13-14,000 seat capacity.
Having it small will basically price me (and a lot of other real fans) out of attending. I have a family of 5 and won't be able to afford it.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:51 pm to Bryant91092
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If it makes him feel any better, tell him he’s way ahead point wise of TD user Bryant. Even a yearly donation of $500 or $1,000 won’t catch me up to him
Not being an OT baller and being able to buy my way to the top is gonna come back to probably bite me. I am hopeful that I’ll still be able to get the tickets though when the time comes even if it’s an upper deck corner.
Yea it sucks - because there is a solid sized Alabama basketball fanbase that has truly cared and been invested through all sorts of shite the last 20+ years, and done it all while walking into a terrible arena every night to watch it.
And now the program is nationally relevant, the coach is great and they are building a great new arena..........and a lot of those folks aren't going to be able to have season tickets anymore AND are going to have to pay like $150 just to get in the door for a game against Missouri?
That just sucks.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:52 pm to DT55Forever1
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Having it small will basically price me (and a lot of other real fans) out of attending. I have a family of 5 and won't be able to afford it.
Yep - I really don't get it. I understand not wanting it to be 15,000 like Coleman is. I don't understand wanting it to be 2/3 of that capacity. That just isn't necessary, and the trade offs are quite frankly pretty shitty to the average Alabama basketball fan.
It made sense at Auburn - they did not have a basketball fanbase, weren't good and quite frankly didn't expect to be very good in the future in a way that would transform their fanbase. So, a 9,121 seat arena made sense, and in the first few years pre-Pearl they averaged 6-7K a night, which was not many but was enough to not make the arena feel empty. Then Pearl showed up, they started having 7-9K a night and then they got really good and were maxed out each game.
We don't have those issues. It feels like we're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 12:56 pm
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