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Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:00 am to Chadaristic
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:00 am to Chadaristic
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@AlabamaMBB head coach Nate Oats:
"Some of our bigger name guys have been careful, they've been smart with what they're associating with (NIL). We'll use it in recruiting to a point. When recruits ask, we'll tell him Jahvon did this, JD did that."
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:00 am to Chadaristic
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@AlabamaMBB head coach Nate Oats:
"Shackelford, him going in the portal, that was one of those deals, he and his family really wanted to be in the best situation to get where he wants to get to. They needed to have peace of mind that staying at Alabama was best for him."
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:01 am to Chadaristic
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@AlabamaMBB head coach Nate Oats:
"Shackelford did look at some options. I made 3 trips to California, we did recruit him hard. He needed to be assured this was the best spot for him. We made sure he knew that we wanted to help him achieve his goals."
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:02 am to Chadaristic
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Oats said the current age requires “re-recruiting” and he noted Alabama was one of only three high-major teams not to lose a player in the portal.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:02 am to Chadaristic
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:17 am to Chadaristic
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Oats said the current age requires “re-recruiting” and he noted Alabama was one of only three high-major teams not to lose a player in the portal.
This is a really big deal for us compared to most programs because of the way we play. If you do a lot of half court iso stuff like LSU or Kentucky it's easy to plug and play as long as you're getting the talent to make it work. If you play the way we do you need a core group of guys who are on the same page that the newcomers assimilate into until they become the next core group of guys.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:30 am to Chadaristic
Heard Wimp say last week that after the UCLA point guard took his name out of the draft and came back, it was between Alabama and Southern Cal. He said Shack wasnt really considering any other schools. And he said, as Coach Oats confirmed, that Alabama really recruited him to come back, really hard.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:45 am to IB4bama
Looks like Hodgson's Twitter account was hacked/stolen by someone named @ErraysGotHim.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:02 am to BigBird09
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I also think a lot of these decisions are based on interviews and workouts (individual and combine) which Primo apparently aced.
Yes. And Kendrick Perkins on the ESPN panel with Bilas and Reese Davis said Sharif Cooper dropped because of those interviews and his crowd. Perkins said the NBA really values the interviews and who you surround yourself with. Clearly Cooper bombed those parts. How many players drop from top 20, possibly lottery to number 48?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:03 am to BigBird09
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I watched a decent bit of him and I'll admit he's a huge reach at 12. The only reason he made late first round sense is projecting that he would have been a lottery prospect the next year. Selecting him at 12 in a loaded class kind of defeats the upside pick reasoning. Absolutely stunned he went before Moody.
I'd understand it in other drafts, but with as loaded as the first round prospects were in this draft, that was a massive reach. That isn't to say that he doesn't have a great NBA career, but more so that I'm not sure the risk here was worth the reward in this situation.
Eh, agree to disagree. The Spurs are about to go into heavy rebuild mode. DeRozan leaves after 1 more year and they're staring down drafting in the top 5 for the next couple of seasons. They selected a guy who they think has the highest ceiling at that point.
I think Primo is kind of like Lavine as a prospect. Left a year too early, didn't get all the playing time but still flashed pro potential. He ended up going 13th, Primo goes 12th. I think the shock is that most mocks had him late 1st but initially after the combine and workouts, people were very excited about him and he did get some lottery hype.
Primo can get some run this year and come back year 2 and still just 19 paired with a top 5 pick rookie. It's risky for sure looking at who else was on the board but people really sleep on his potential. It was a "loaded" draft as far as depth goes but after the top 10, hell top 5, you really don't know what you're going to get. The Spurs are reaching for the higher ceiling guy, I can't disrespect that choice.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:15 am to AbSnopes
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And Kendrick Perkins on the ESPN panel with Bilas and Reese Davis said Sharif Cooper dropped because of those interviews and his crowd. Perkins said the NBA really values the interviews and who you surround yourself with. Clearly Cooper bombed those parts. How many players drop from top 20, possibly lottery to number 48?
His dad was apparently a pretty big problem IIRC, but I always thought that was more related to the recruiting process, which doesn't matter for the NBA. I figured he fell so far because he's a small guard with a broken shot who doesn't play defense, which largely negates his high level playmaking ability.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:42 pm to Robot Santa
Auburn 247 is in shambles with Primo and Herb being drafted before any Auburn players, that board is full of gold right now.
“they might have the 7th best roster in the league. I’m not saying they’re going to be terrible, but I think their record will be anywhere from 9-9 to 11-7. The best rosters in the SEC to me are, in order: UK, Auburn, Arkansas, Tennessee, LSU, Florida and then UAT. So yea, people keep on forgetting how great of a recruiter AJ was for them and how much talent he brought them. UAT’s players this year are nowhere near the caliber of players they had last year. Their big guy from high school is so slow and very uncoordinated, he will be dominated by our top 5 pick in Jabari Smith and possible first rounder Walker Kessler. JD is nothing but an athlete playing basketball, dunks on people and can drive at times but has no shot making ability and is a liability on defense. Not worried about their team at all“.
This was an actual post. An ACTUAL post.
“they might have the 7th best roster in the league. I’m not saying they’re going to be terrible, but I think their record will be anywhere from 9-9 to 11-7. The best rosters in the SEC to me are, in order: UK, Auburn, Arkansas, Tennessee, LSU, Florida and then UAT. So yea, people keep on forgetting how great of a recruiter AJ was for them and how much talent he brought them. UAT’s players this year are nowhere near the caliber of players they had last year. Their big guy from high school is so slow and very uncoordinated, he will be dominated by our top 5 pick in Jabari Smith and possible first rounder Walker Kessler. JD is nothing but an athlete playing basketball, dunks on people and can drive at times but has no shot making ability and is a liability on defense. Not worried about their team at all“.
This was an actual post. An ACTUAL post.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:54 pm to TrojanTide
Link it so we know who Iron Puppets moniker is.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:10 pm to Robot Santa
Yep, Cooper's jump shot is ugly as hell, and he's like 5'10, 160.
Great feel for the game, ability to buy fouls, create, etc., but that had to scare some NBA teams off already.
Then if he blew a few interviews too, it just snowballs.
Spurs are getting criticized (and if they're not it's because they're the Spurs), but they probably don't even care too much if Primo is a bust - it's just the 12th pick. If he makes an all-star team it's a home run.
If I'm a Spurs fan I'm probably wondering if they could have traded down and still gotten Primo, but we don't have any inside info.
Great feel for the game, ability to buy fouls, create, etc., but that had to scare some NBA teams off already.
Then if he blew a few interviews too, it just snowballs.
Spurs are getting criticized (and if they're not it's because they're the Spurs), but they probably don't even care too much if Primo is a bust - it's just the 12th pick. If he makes an all-star team it's a home run.
If I'm a Spurs fan I'm probably wondering if they could have traded down and still gotten Primo, but we don't have any inside info.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:10 pm to Gary Busey
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:11 pm to BigBird09
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. This video of Herb being drafted got me
Me too! This is awesome, so happy for Herb and his family.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:55 pm to TrojanTide
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Their big guy from high school is so slow and very uncoordinated, he will be dominated by our top 5 pick in Jabari Smith and possible first rounder Walker Kessler.
This is all wrong. Bediako is not slow. Running the floor is one of his best traits. And he wont be dominated by those other guys, mainly bc he wont be running with the 1s.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:20 pm to TrojanTide
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“they might have the 7th best roster in the league. I’m not saying they’re going to be terrible, but I think their record will be anywhere from 9-9 to 11-7. The best rosters in the SEC to me are, in order: UK, Auburn, Arkansas, Tennessee, LSU, Florida and then UAT. So yea, people keep on forgetting how great of a recruiter AJ was for them and how much talent he brought them. UAT’s players this year are nowhere near the caliber of players they had last year. Their big guy from high school is so slow and very uncoordinated, he will be dominated by our top 5 pick in Jabari Smith and possible first rounder Walker Kessler. JD is nothing but an athlete playing basketball, dunks on people and can drive at times but has no shot making ability and is a liability on defense. Not worried about their team at all“.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:20 pm to AbSnopes
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Yes. And Kendrick Perkins on the ESPN panel with Bilas and Reese Davis said Sharif Cooper dropped because of those interviews and his crowd. Perkins said the NBA really values the interviews and who you surround yourself with. Clearly Cooper bombed those parts. How many players drop from top 20, possibly lottery to number 48?
Perkins has a tendency to talk out of his arse. If that were the case insiders everywhere would have been on it. Perkins wouldn't be the first reporting it.
Being a Hawks fan I just watched their introductory press conference where Cooper received all of the questions (to the point it was awkward seeing our first round pick just sit there through it) and he answered those questions perfectly. He was incredibly well-spoken and had a great attitude and mindset for a guy that just dropped like that.
I think it's pretty simple: he dropped because of his size and his currently broken jump shot. Not many 6-foot-ish guards out there make it to the league without a jump shot.
I'd counter that though with not many players have his level of handle, quickness, and passing ability and don't make something of themselves in the league. I think teams will regret letting him drop though I'd argue Butler dropping that far was even more egregious.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 4:02 pm to BigBird09
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NBPA Top 100 Camp All Star Team:
MVP: Jaden Bradley
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Adem Bona
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