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re: There's talk on this board that Milroe comes back because we're paying him 2.5 mil a year.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:54 am to bamatide07
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:54 am to bamatide07
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Why does the media gaslight people into believing that Milroe is a top NFL prospect ?
In all seriousness it's because there are a ton of NFL franchises that are essentially just poorly run small businesses at the top. The owner likes the GM and other executives, trusts them, and delegates too much responsibility to them to the detriment of the franchise. In other words there are a lot of executives in pro football who are total fricking clowns but have an in with the boss and it allows them to do a bunch of stupid shite like drafting Jalen Milroe in the first round. He's no more worthy of it than Richardson was, but that doesn't stop them from convincing themselves that it'll work this time even though Josh Allen is literally the only example of it ever working.
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:57 am to Pandy Fackler
The thing is, I’d be surprised if the collective or any booster paid him after how he’s crapped the bed this year.
Even if he does somehow get that money, DeBoer doesn’t have to play him. If I was DeBoer, I’d tell him he’s never playing another snap at Alabama and that he’s permanent scout team QB if decides to come back.
Even if he does somehow get that money, DeBoer doesn’t have to play him. If I was DeBoer, I’d tell him he’s never playing another snap at Alabama and that he’s permanent scout team QB if decides to come back.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:04 am to AbSnopes
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He is projected as a too 10 draft pick. Lots more money there.
This is all conjecture to create excitement. He's the QB on a high-profile college team but a franchise making him a Top 10 pick is ludicrous. I don't see that. He's not going top 10, I'll ban bet myself from posting if he ends up a top ten pick, L-O-Freaking L.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 11:04 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:07 am to Robot Santa
Josh Allen is literally the only example of it ever working.
Josh Allen 6'5" 237 lbs Milroe 6'2" 225 lbs
Wonderlic score 37/50 Milroe???? Waiting to be seen but I'll go out on
a limb and say not that good
Josh Allen 6'5" 237 lbs Milroe 6'2" 225 lbs
Wonderlic score 37/50 Milroe???? Waiting to be seen but I'll go out on
a limb and say not that good
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:09 am to Pandy Fackler
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I think you're probably about right, but there's alot of concern that Milroe is coming back.
Have to keep in mind that we are small segment of the fanbase. There are maybe plenty of others donating to the collective or flat bankrolling him that don't see it like we do.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:31 am to TS1926
Hilarious we are at this point. I can’t ever remember it happening. I agree though, Milroe can’t come back to Alabama.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:32 am to Pandy Fackler
Honest assessment with reaction from fans I don’t think he’s coming back whether he goes pro or not.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:35 am to TS1926
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Josh Allen is literally the only example of it ever working.
Josh Allen 6'5" 237 lbs Milroe 6'2" 225 lbs
Wonderlic score 37/50 Milroe???? Waiting to be seen but I'll go out on
a limb and say not that good
I'm not trying to make an apples to apples comparison. Allen is just the only example I can think of of a mediocre college player with a lot of desirable physical traits getting overdrafted based on those physical traits and ending up being a really good pro.
Milroe is probably going to do great on his interviews during the getting to know him portion because he's charismatic, and then fall apart when they start on the pointed questions about coverages, protections, play calls, etc. because he simply doesn't understand the game on that level. It's just a matter of whether that is enough to get them to ignore the caveman part of their brains telling them "big man run fast, throw ball far. We can fix."
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:41 am to Robot Santa
Imagine Gruden grilling Milroe on a white board.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:41 am to JIB
I’ve never seen a player single handily rip a fan base apart like Jalen Milroe has. Anyone with a functioning brain realizes that he isn’t a high level P5 player as a passer. And the antics he has displayed. Saban shouldn’t have bowed to him and his buddies last year after the USF game. As much as I love what Saban did for us he totally mismanaged that situation. I would’ve rather taken our lumps last year with Simpson than see Milroe and his friends destroy the culture of our program.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:44 am to Robot Santa
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It's just a matter of whether that is enough to get them to ignore the caveman part of their brains telling them "big man run fast, throw ball far. We can fix."
I promise you Milroe will be drafted because this is the MO for pro teams right now and it’s why overall QB play in the league is for caca.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:35 pm to JIB
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Imagine Gruden grilling Milroe on a white board.
miLroe would look for a spider, two Y’s and a banana to give Gruden when asked to draw that play out
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:38 pm to Crimson Wraith
Now this is something that I can get behind.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:44 pm to InkStainedWretch
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this is the MO for pro teams right now and it’s why overall QB play in the league is for caca.
This. NFL is high school football right now. Put your Best athlete at qb and run plays drawn up in the dirt.
It's why the same teams always win playoff games. They have a qb that has above avg intelligence- Mahomes, Purdy, Goff, Allen.
Lamar Jackson is a bit of an anamoly because he can actually throw better than all the other athletes playing qb, but his only chance of winning a playoff game is to ride King Henry like the stallion he is. Jackson doesn't win playoff games.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:00 pm to Ten Bears
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No the fundamental question is whether or not Deboer takes charge of this program after the Auburn game.
The very fact that we have to ask that question in November of his first season as head coach doesn't bode well for having it answered in the affirmative.
Deboer may be a good coach for PAC12 and FCS schools. However, he is not a leader. He's weak and doesn't demand any respect- either for himself, his staff, or the program. He doesn't demand accountability from his players and he is too timid and soft to make needed changes or even enforce basic discipline. In just one season (and before the season was even halfway over), he's shown us that he is not in control of the program- his players are... even in the middle of a game. He answers to them.
He was vastly unprepared to coach in the SEC. Byrne should have to answer for his 5-minute coaching search.
Deboer won't be here more than 3 years, max. If he doesn't solve his leadership problem, he won't be here past December 2026.
Downvotes won't change it.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:12 pm to Chancellor
OK, I'll ask the question again, who's out there who's better and can lead in an era where players make $10 million? The control dynamics have changed and they're not changing back, the portal is not going away, NIL is not going away.
I'm not pleased at all with the way things have gone, but the way people talk about player-coach relationships is straight out of a generation or two ago.
It's different now. That's why Saban went to the house. He realized his shtick ain't gonna work anymore.
Yes there's got to be discipline, although in different ways than before ... tell me how some assistant coach tells a player who makes 10 times his salary to run gassers for lack of effort?
The players are for all intents and purposes equal partners in this mess right now.
The changes are going to affect us and are affecting us more than anybody because of the unique culture Alabama has that transcends just what happens on the field. I honestly don't know how we keep it between the lines moving forward, but I don't think a scenario where we toss people overboard every three years looking for an old-school arse kicker who can replicate what Saban did in the glory days is the way.
I'm not pleased at all with the way things have gone, but the way people talk about player-coach relationships is straight out of a generation or two ago.
It's different now. That's why Saban went to the house. He realized his shtick ain't gonna work anymore.
Yes there's got to be discipline, although in different ways than before ... tell me how some assistant coach tells a player who makes 10 times his salary to run gassers for lack of effort?
The players are for all intents and purposes equal partners in this mess right now.
The changes are going to affect us and are affecting us more than anybody because of the unique culture Alabama has that transcends just what happens on the field. I honestly don't know how we keep it between the lines moving forward, but I don't think a scenario where we toss people overboard every three years looking for an old-school arse kicker who can replicate what Saban did in the glory days is the way.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:25 pm to InkStainedWretch
This Saturday could be very embarrassing for Milroe, Kalen, Byrne, and the Bama fans. If Milroe plays like he does 50% of the time and Bama is getting beat, then the fans are going after him and Kalen. Losing to AU at home would be a complete clusterfeck and Bryne will feel the heat as well.
Who is really running this program as of today?
Who is really running this program as of today?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:25 pm to Chancellor
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Downvotes won't change it.
Upvotes don't prove it either.
He didn't have problems with players or discipline at UW. Nobody said he was soft or unable to make decisions there.
Perhaps the players are unfrickingcoachable dicks. DeBoer is a winner and he'll win at BAMA so long as clowns such as yourself are nowhere near the head coach decision making process.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:26 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Who is really running this program as of today?
God only knows.
But people on message boards ... and that includes me ... ain't gonna fix what's wrong.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:28 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Perhaps the players are unfrickingcoachable dicks.
Rich unfrickingcoachable dicks who can now take their bag and go to another school without consequences if they don't like what's going on where they're at.
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