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re: The Truth About Saban

Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:29 am to
Posted by TheNameIsDalton
Huntsville
Member since Mar 2021
1483 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:29 am to
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Wolford and Roach definitely aren't earning their direct deposits.



Wolford had a tough task rebuilding this OL after taking over for Marrone and has had a ton of success at each stop, he gets a bit more rope from me.

Roach and Wiggins need to go and I've been saying that for a while. Alabama recruits at too high of a level to play so poorly at these positions.
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1733 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:41 am to
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23- An embarrassing home loss to a non conference team that Alabama used to destroy yearly. Three-four loss season.



Alabama has an overall losing record to Texas. We hadn't played them yearly in years until last year, when we narrowly beat them. Losing to the #11 team (that has one of the great minds in college football as a head coach) is embarrassing? We may very well end up losing 3 or 4 games unless we get the QB situation straightened out, true. But no need to make things out to be worse than they are.
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2939 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:41 am to
My opinion wide receivers did good last game. They were running open and made some very tough catches. Not their fault they have a rb playing qb.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13025 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:51 am to
What is embarrassing is getting manhandled at the line of scrimmage by a non SEC school, at home too.

If it wasn't for QB injuries, Alabama still might not have a win over Texas. I still don't know how Alabama allowed Texas to hang around and make a game of it back in the NCG when Texas had a backup QB.
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
2496 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:55 am to
I think the idea is that Bama would play a good non-conference team every year but would usually blow them out, not that Texas specifically.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55987 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:58 am to
quote:

What is embarrassing is getting manhandled at the line of scrimmage by a non SEC school, at home too.



We didn't really get manhandled at the LOS, besides in pass protection.

Neither team ran the ball particularly well. UT averaged 2.8 pc.

They had a better offensive gameplan, getting the ball out quickly, and we dropped our running QB back a lot.
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1733 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:42 pm to
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I still don't know how Alabama allowed Texas to hang around and make a game of it back in the NCG when Texas had a backup QB.


Because when you go back and look at the footage from the games we played during our peak years, we weren't perfect then, either. We missed blocks, jumped offside, let people complete long passes, roughed the passer, couldn't pick up key first downs, etc. We couldn't pass the ball for crap in the NCG against Texas. If we were facing an offensive coordinator as good as Sark in that NCG, things might have turned out differently. The old adage is true, you're seldom really as good as you look in a big win, and seldom really as bad as you look in a loss. Having to replace a starting QB, and playing a true freshman LT (even a highly touted one) in the same year is difficult. We've done miraculously well over the last several years, considering the players that have left early to the NFL draft, and the loss of valuable assistants to promotions. Plus those assistants now compete for recruits, and have an intimate knowledge of our program and tendencies. We've been running a clinic for coaches on how to play like us, essentially.
Posted by BrianFantana
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2012
475 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:55 pm to
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Just today's twitter crowd or the east button generation.

95% never played a F down in their life.

But they understood their limitations.


Yep. 99.9% of the clowns on this site and twitter couldn't coach pickleball, but yet question every single Alabama coach constantly. They couldn't get on the whiteboard and even explain how to block inside or outside zone against an odd or even front. Please dont even get me started on them trying to explain anything with defense because most are on rolltide willies level with "Blitz Bama Blitz".
Posted by BCBAMA
Southeast Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
984 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:56 pm to
I see 2 areas of concern; one long-standing and one of recent 2-3 years. Lack of player development is a major source of concern, and regardless of how highly ranked the recruiting classes are, if it does not translate to performance on the field, it is throwing sand in the wind.
Another source of concern is the stubbornness to make modifications defensively. Look, I am nowhere near as insightful as many of you on here in regards to understanding x’ and o’s, but I watch how teams put their best wrs in motion, and instead of keeping out best cb on them, we rotate or hand them off through rotation, depending on defensive call.

I realize everyone changes as they age, no one escapes that. But I still believe Coach has enough left in the tank. If he doesn’t, he’ll be the first to say it, and I do not believe he will allow the program to become what it was before his arrival. And no, I am not foreseeing this as the end of the program. The end of our degree of dominance, however, seems to have ended after the 2020 season. The kind of dominance to where we expected to blow out teams and to never think a game would be lost. We are still one of the few teams that is able to contend for a national title. A quarterback change will work wonders for this team, and I hope it happens before our next game, or more losses will follow. I just don’t believe Coach will allow that to happen.
Posted by Bama121212
Member since Jul 2014
257 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:33 pm to
I agree to an extent. The end of dominance did not end when Kirby Smart went to Georgia- like some folks love to claim. That is being ignorant. Tosh was tough as nails. Golding was at Bama for too long but it all runs through Saban right? I don’t think either that our dominance/ stamina/ strength etc. ended when Cochran went to Georgia. It probably stung some from a rah rah standpoint, but it does seem the injuries have slowed, knock on wood. Fact is, we went up against a team with a great coach- it was not his first year, we barely got by them last year and let’s face it, this qb crap dragged out all offseason. We all were guessing how many touchdowns we were gonna win by. Why in the world do you rep 5 guys if you’re only going to play one? Is the playbook that complicated? What happened to expedite Winning the Game? Quinn Ewers balled out against us. Defenses go hurry up against us when they have personnel matchups they like, and we can’t stop it. My issue is what is wrong with calling a timeout when we are gassed? Why let the clock roll?? Just call an TO! And also, I thought this would happen, but Caleb Downs was victimized on a td. I thought it would happen soon, and Sark pulled it off. Caleb will learn from it, but they got him creeping up over aggressively and sark called the right play at the right time. The o-line stuff. How many snaps did McLaughlin put in the dirt? It’s Tuesday now, do we have an official count? Why did we stop running it? Is it because they neutralized our rush? Did they do that because we only lined up under center when we ran it? The lack of screen plays on offense. I don’t think we have a receiver we can throw one too, but how about one of these many backs? Surely Jalen can hit a RB screen right?
Posted by The Silverback
Manhattan, NYC
Member since May 2013
2224 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:42 pm to
Being three years removed from a historic 2020 season and maybe** the best Bama team in history, then nearly winning it all in 2021 with BoB and Golding (remember this deficient '21 team whooped the best UGA team ever in Atlanta) and then two losses at the buzzer in 2022 (still BoB and Golding on the team) and going on to a Sugar Bowl win.

Doesn’t sound like NIL is the problem. Coaching and player development (to some degree) has.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5689 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:17 am to
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And they had 15 penalties against Texas last year. Is 10 less than 15? They had 2 penalties in the first game against Middle Tennessee. I don't recall a single game last year that Alabama only had two penalties in.


This is an unbelievable cope.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29692 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:24 pm to
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He's still the best coach in college football today. Period.
He's getting old, but he's as mentally sharp as he's ever been. He may not be breaking headsets and having aneurysms on the sideline as often, but he still has fire and intensity. He's still yelling at players in practice. He still has the complete respect of everyone in the building.

The game is just different now with NIL and the transfer portal. It's virtually impossible to be as dominant as we once were, but we're still an incredibly dominant program, and we're still contending for championships every single year regardless of who we lose.

Saban has the mental sharpness and health to coach for at least another 5 years, and I'm going to enjoy every single one of them.

If you don't agree, and want him gone, you can respectfully go frick yourself. You're a moron.


I agree with every letter.
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
2496 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

We didn't really get manhandled at the LOS, besides in pass protection.


Most of the plays called were pass plays, so you're saying we didn't get manhandled at the line of scrimmage except on the most common play call.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5096 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:58 pm to
We have too many sidewalk fans on this board…too many from the cray cray Bama Forums that shut down
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