Started By
Message
re: The problem with Hurts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:35 am to Panthers4life
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:35 am to Panthers4life
quote:
Not yet... The fans says we found Qb... but It's not over until Saban says so.
Oh, we found out who's easily the better quarterback. Even those like EntitledBamaFan, who earlier hoped Tua would transfer, should know now.
If Saban chooses Hurts anyway, then that's entirely his fault. Tua will be a success anyway, just somewhere else.
0
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:06 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Yes
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:22 pm to EntitledBamaFan
quote:
EntitledBamaFan
Yes
For the record: Entitled Bama Fan's response of "Yes" is to the question...
"Do you still hope Tua transfers?"
Pretty bad attitude for a real fan. Since you created the account I did wonder if your username wasn't just to mock Alabama fans.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:54 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
You're too easy man, I enjoy our pointless arguments,not as much as with River because he is challenged but still enjoyable. For the record, I created this account because of you, River and UaofRolltide, of the 3 you're the most stable though.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:54 pm to EntitledBamaFan
LOL I can't believe these are still happening just a week after Monday.
Y'all are funny.
Y'all are funny.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:31 pm to MontyFranklyn
You can analyze it all you want, but it boils down to Jay Barker Syndrome: Can't hit a wide open receiver.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:46 pm to MontyFranklyn
The problem with Hurts is... he doesn’t throw very well. Doesn’t see the field very well. Cant be fixed, so you’ll have to build around his strengths.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:13 am to Wroll Tyde
quote:
Can't hit a wide open receiver.
That isn't it. He hits the wide open guys on most throws. His problem is that if the guy isn't wide arse open he won't even attempt the throw so he takes off or holds the ball and throws it away or takes a loss. Jalen really does throw a decent ball and has a pretty good arm. His issue is between the ears and I do believe it could be fixed. It just looks like he has run out of time. I think most of us had high hopes for him and still do. If he clears his mental hurdle and wins the job this fall then good for him.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:19 am to Commander Data
Ridley was wide open on the first drive for a TD vs Jawja and Hurts didn't come close to hitting him.
If he wants to play in the NFL he'll have to get a lot better quick or move to another position. Safety would be a good bet.
If he wants to play in the NFL he'll have to get a lot better quick or move to another position. Safety would be a good bet.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:22 am to PowHound
Have a different opinion here.
Tend to agree with this one.
To focused on finding Ridley also still believe there was no chemistry with him and the WRs that caused some of them to give up on routes and not focus(drops) when ball was thrown.
Yes more so this year then last.
I think our OC had zero confidence in him throwing the ball along with the WRs which got in his head. Combined was an issue
In the end we should have starting worrying about his development and relationship with the offense on the field in their ability to connect when in the 2016 NC game he came to the sidelines and told the offense to trust in him.
quote:
1. Hurts couldn't read defenses
Tend to agree with this one.
quote:
2. Couldn't throw receivers open
To focused on finding Ridley also still believe there was no chemistry with him and the WRs that caused some of them to give up on routes and not focus(drops) when ball was thrown.
quote:
3. Most importantly he absolutely could not stop himself from leaving the pocket early, and running directly to the right sideline repeatedly.
Yes more so this year then last.
quote:
5. He had zero confidence in his ability to throw the ball. That's why he wouldn't let it go. He was terrified of making a mistake.
I think our OC had zero confidence in him throwing the ball along with the WRs which got in his head. Combined was an issue
In the end we should have starting worrying about his development and relationship with the offense on the field in their ability to connect when in the 2016 NC game he came to the sidelines and told the offense to trust in him.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:22 am to Wroll Tyde
quote:
You can analyze it all you want, but it boils down to Jay Barker Syndrome: Can't hit a wide open receiver.
Barker had an excellent SR year. Won The Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award. Finished 5th in Heisman voting.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:08 am to Crimson Wraith
quote:
Barker had an excellent SR year.
Under 2000 yards passing and around negative 150 rushing yards
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:23 am to MoarKilometers
1,996 yds, 14 TD's/5 INT's
61.5% Comp
QB Rating - 151.7
National Award Winner
5th in the Heisman
61.5% Comp
QB Rating - 151.7
National Award Winner
5th in the Heisman
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:56 pm to Commander Data
There is no problem with Hurts. He is what he is. He's not good enough at QB to win at the highest level of competition, but he does provide the team with a decent backup QB
I think it's ridiculous to suggest moving him to another position. He's not a quick twitch athlete. He's a slow twitch athlete, and the majority of his shortcomings at QB stem from that. Tua is far more quick twitch than Jalen even though he's a slower runner
I think it's ridiculous to suggest moving him to another position. He's not a quick twitch athlete. He's a slow twitch athlete, and the majority of his shortcomings at QB stem from that. Tua is far more quick twitch than Jalen even though he's a slower runner
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:10 pm to CAbamafan
quote:
He's not a quick twitch athlete. He's a slow twitch athlete, and the majority of his shortcomings at QB stem from that. Tua is far more quick twitch than Jalen even though he's a slower runner
My nerves twitch at warp speed when Jalen starts rolling out to throw away that ball
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:20 pm to CAbamafan
quote:
There is no problem with Hurts. He is what he is. He's not good enough at QB to win at the highest level of competition, but he does provide the team with a decent backup QB I think it's ridiculous to suggest moving him to another position. He's not a quick twitch athlete. He's a slow twitch athlete, and the majority of his shortcomings at QB stem from that. Tua is far more quick twitch than Jalen even though he's a slower runner
Processing and reacting to information has nothing to do with "quick twitch" athletes and muscle fiber make up. I think you're getting two things mixed up.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:32 pm to CAbamafan
quote:
think it's ridiculous to suggest moving him to another position.
He is a great athlete though. Runs a 4.5 forty or better, one of the strongest guys on the team and has great size. He is a lot worse of a quarterback than most care to admit but he has prototypical measurables for safety or could gain a little more weight and play H-back. This is only being suggested by fans in case he dreams of playing pro ball. Most likely he will remain the backup quarterback and that is fine by me and better for the team because if he changed positions that makes us dangerously thin at quarterback. We will see in a couple of months.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:55 pm to CAbamafan
quote:
I think it's ridiculous to suggest moving him to another position.
It worked for Matt Jones, Julian Edelman, Randle El, Terrelle Pryor, and Braxton Miller.
Jalen is every bit as gifted athletically as any of those guys. It's his best bet at playing at the next level.
It would be good for us, too. He'd still be on the squad learning a new position, and if necessary could fill in as back up QB.
Plus, his changing positions would help us with QB recruiting.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 4:00 pm to CrimsonTideMD
quote:
It worked for Matt Jones, Julian Edelman, Randle El, Terrelle Pryor, and Braxton Miller. Jalen is every bit as gifted athletically as any of those guys. It's his best bet at playing at the next level.
No, he's absolutely not as athletic as those guys. Just because he has a fast 40 time and can supposedly squat a lot doesn't mean he's the same as those guys. He's not quick or agile. He has slow reactions. He'd be our worst running back, he's not quick enough to play WR. I don't think he has the reaction speed to play safety. I mean, MAYBE Hback, but I still think there would be better options.
e.g. Jalen isn't even as athletic as Blake Sims. You simply can't compare him to a Nick Marshall or Terelle Pryor that could easily transition to WR or CB. He's simply not that kind of athlete. I think it's all a moot point anyway. He'll either play backup QB here or play QB somewhere else
Posted on 1/17/18 at 4:03 pm to Gustave
quote:
Processing and reacting to information has nothing to do with "quick twitch" athletes and muscle fiber make up.
I think the two are intertwined. Body/mind connection. It's true that in my way of thinking, some "quick twitch" guys aren't even fast runners at all (Tom Brady), but might have lightning quick throwing motions.
Im probably misusing the term in this instance, but my point is that Tua has much quicker reactions, and is more agile and efficient with his motions, but a slower runner.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 4:10 pm
Page 3 of 4
Latest Alabama News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News