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re: Terrell Lewis...interesting take on last year's defense.
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:00 pm to 3down10
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:00 pm to 3down10
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Being on the sideline would have put him closer to the chaos that led to two interceptions being wiped out by substitution penalties...one of which helped cost us a chance to play for a national championship.
Do you think he had a good view of Tua making one of the worst plays I've ever seen in college football when he threw an interception from our own 26 with 26 seconds left in the half, giving LSU 7 points?
ETA: It was also 1st down.
Also, wonder if he a good view of the punter fumbling as well.
3 turnovers by the offense in that game - defenses fault.
Pardon my French, but what the frick is your problem?
Here's a suggestion: Go back and read the title of the fricking thread. It's about a defensive player's take on the defense. You want to bitch about other shite, go start another fricking thread.
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Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:01 pm to 3down10
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I don't think statistically it was really all that terrible overall, outside the Ole Miss game. We did finish #3 in the SP+. But to answer your question, the quality of opponent also increased in November, so maintaining anywhere near the same stat line is a sign of improvement. Duke running for 100+ yards is much worse than a team like LSU/Auburn/Miss St doing it. Which is why I like the SP+, it takes that into account, while raw stats do not.
I get what you are saying. I will point out that if you take out the non power 5 teams Bama played, the run D was substantially worse in November using traditional stats, of course taking into account better competition. It really weren't close. SP+ is a predictive tool isn't? It isn't used to analyze actual effectiveness in a game that has taken place, correct? It is used to say that based on past performance this is the predicted outcome against the SP+ of another opponent.
This post was edited on 2/29/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:04 pm to 3down10
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Well you're a dumbass, so that's not surprising.
He's a dumbass?
You're the only moron here posting massive walls of text about everything other than what the damn thread is about. It's sad that you can't see how big of a fool it makes you.
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:07 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Pardon my French, but what the frick is your problem?
Here's a suggestion: Go back and read the title of the fricking thread. It's about a defensive player's take on the defense. You want to bitch about other shite, go start another fricking thread.
No, this thread was about people taking things out of context and putting their own agenda on it. Started right out the gate with Stephen M Smith throwing his bullshite in. I merely responded, so take it up with them.
Furthermore, Terrell Lewis himself already debunked the article calling it click bait. AKA it was taken out of context. Which is what I said the entire time.
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Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:10 pm to LovetheLord
Me checking this thread
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:11 pm to Cobrasize
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:20 pm to 3down10
Please tone down the personal attacks. I’m getting complaints. Thanks
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:22 pm to Cobrasize
For the record, I didn’t complain. I was laughing at the shite show.
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:44 pm to Carlton
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I get what you are saying. I will point out that if you take out the non power 5 teams Bama played, the run D was substantially worse in November using traditional stats, of course taking into account better competition. SP+ is a predictive tool isn't? It isn't used to analyze actual effectiveness in a game that has taken place, correct? It is used to say that based on past performance this is the predicted account against the SP+ of another opponent.
I'm not sure how SP+ does their stats, I know they take opponent strength into account and they are the best I've found, most services don't take opponent strength into account at all.
I think it uses multiple factors.
It has a high % on picking future games
There is also the FEI. Which measures efficiency. Alabama ranked 10th in it. It was 1st down efficiency which killed the ranking, 47th. That's the % of drives where the defense didn't force a 3 and out. 46 teams did better.
Also related, 41st in the number of opponent drives that ended up with 0 to negative yards.
The good news in that is the majority of that was giving up 1st downs. When it's just touchdowns only, Alabama jumps up to 8th.
And Alabama had the 9th toughest schedule for offensive opponents.
9th in turnovers forced.
25th in yards allowed(adjusted for field position and how many yards it was possible to give up).
So basically much of what we saw, a defense that struggled getting off the field, but usually managed to put a few plays together, or a turnover at some point in the drive to get a stop.
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:45 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Please tone down the personal attacks. I’m getting complaints. Thanks
Was it a "senior member"?
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:49 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Please tone down the personal attacks. I’m getting complaints. Thanks
Did they complain about this one on the front page from Stephen M Smith?
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You're a piece of trash. And, you got the right one now chump. I'll talk shite about your Pete Golding sycophant arse until the cows come home.
Since it currently has 9 upvotes and 3 downvotes, my guess is that people are just tired of hearing an opinion they don't agree with, more so that being offended about personal attacks.
I can keep on going, but I guess I'm old school and grew up with the old "sticks and stones" mentality rather whine and cry until I get my way.
This post was edited on 2/29/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:55 pm to 3down10
I think the Alabama defense is good and better than most relative to other D’s in college football and has the potential to be great next year. But I don’t think any of those stats show that the run defense showed progressive improvement throughout last year or that defensive communication and organization improved throughout the season. All of the problems you point out seem to be season long issues.
A defense that struggles to get off the field on 3rd down is a major deficiency by the way.
A defense that struggles to get off the field on 3rd down is a major deficiency by the way.
This post was edited on 2/29/20 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 2/29/20 at 9:03 pm to Carlton
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I think the Alabama defense is good and better than most relative to other D’s in college football and has the potential to be great next year. But I don’t think any of those stats show that the run defense showed progressive improvement throughout last year or that defensive communication and organization improved throughout the season. All of the problems you point out seem to be season long issues.
A defense that struggles to get off the field on 3rd down is a major deficiency by the way.
I don't remember seeing players not setting the edge against LSU. I saw Shane Lee get abused a good bit later in the season, but not the same problems. Seemed like LSU really abused him with their RB out of the backfield. Saban pretty much said he was not ready to be out there, but circumstances forced it. Didn't name him specifically because Saban is Saban, but it's pretty obvious who he meant.
That's just the kind of things that happen over the season. Teams look at the film, find the weaknesses and exploit them. Probably about the worse of that came from Auburn, because causing confusion and mistakes is Malzhans specialty. Like a kid in a candy store.
I agree about 3rd down. We have to get better at stopping the run next year or it will continue to be a problem. Way too many 3rd and shorts rather than 3rd and longs. A more experienced front 7 should fix that problem.
Posted on 2/29/20 at 9:12 pm to 3down10
Doesn’t matter please tone it down.
Posted on 2/29/20 at 9:17 pm to 3down10
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Out of curiosity, what do you think this thread is about?
You really are this stupid, aren't you?
It's my thread, I started it. Go back and read the first post. That's what the thread is about.
You yap about other people's education when your own reading comprehension skills are clearly dog shite.
This post was edited on 2/29/20 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 2/29/20 at 9:19 pm to 3down10
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I don't remember seeing players not setting the edge against LSU. I saw Shane Lee get abused a good bit later in the season, but not the same problems. Seemed like LSU really abused him with their RB out of the backfield. Saban pretty much said he was not ready to be out there, but circumstances forced it. Didn't name him specifically because Saban is Saban, but it's pretty obvious who he meant.
They probably weren't giving the edge like earlier in the season but they still gave up 4.2 y/c a carry and 166 yards. And statistically they were worse against MSU and Auburn on run defense than any other part of the season. When you consider that some of the early season defensive run stats are inflated cause teams were running the ball in garbage time in blow outs it looks worse. I agree that LSU abused Shane Lee with passes out the backfield with CEH but they ran it we too.
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That's just the kind of things that happen over the season. Teams look at the film, find the weaknesses and exploit them. Probably about the worse of that came from Auburn, because causing confusion and mistakes is Malzhans specialty. Like a kid in a candy store.
We all know that Auburn thrives on confusion and tempo. It is a little disturbing at times even with the youth playing how unprepared and disorganized they looked considering how much they know about them and after a season of action.
This post was edited on 2/29/20 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 2/29/20 at 9:22 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You really are this stupid, aren't you?
I mean guys come on
Posted on 2/29/20 at 9:36 pm to Carlton
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They probably weren't giving the edge like earlier in the season but they still gave up 4.2 y/c a carry and 166 yards. And statistically they were worse against MSU and Auburn on run defense than any other part of the season. When you consider that some of the early season defensive run stats are inflated cause teams were running the ball in garbage time in blow outs it looks worse. I agree that LSU abused Shane Lee with passes out the backfield with CEH but they ran it we too.
The run defense was never up to par, the reasons for it changed. I don't disagree on that note. But they did improve when it comes to what they were doing on the field.
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We all know that Auburn thrives on confusion and tempo. It is a little disturbing at times even with the youth playing how unprepared and disorganized they looked considering how much they know about them and after a season of action.
It sucked, but it's the kind of thing that happens with youth. As Saban would say, you don't practice until you get it right, you practice until you can't get it wrong. They obviously needed a lot more practice.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 6:05 am to BamaGradinTn
This post was edited on 3/1/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/1/20 at 6:20 am to TidalSurge1
I don’t know what’s happening, just keep on keepin on. I haven’t slept in a few days so everyone can suck it. EVERYBODY JUST SHUT UP AND SUCK IT. SUCK IT SUCK IT SUCK IT SUCK IT.
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