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Supposed to be the 4th and 1 we failed to convert.

Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:46 pm
Miller has the ball.

Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4506 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:59 pm to
I see a hold by us and an opening because of that hold that I could get a first down with and I'm 50.

The hole could be to the left though after 77 hits his block.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13225 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 5:03 pm to
The problem with benching Miller is he is the best blocker.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
3125 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 5:08 pm to
You're taking a snapshot after he's already initiated the cut

It would actually be helpful to see what the line looked like prior to that
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 5:15 pm to
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You're taking a snapshot after he's already initiated the cut


He just pulled that image from Twitter (probably from a Roll Bama Roll tweet).

quote:

It would actually be helpful to see what the line looked like prior to that


Here is video of the play. The angle you want starts at about the 26 sec mark:

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This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 5:17 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 5:22 pm to
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You're taking a snapshot after he's already initiated the cut


That's his biggest problem - he's initiating cuts so early that he loses any hole that does exist. He's either seeing ghosts or not trusting his vision or something, but he missed 4-5 holes in this game that were clear cut 4-6 yard gains with 1 man to beat to be much more. And his initial breakdown/cut led to the hole to close, him to dance around and end up with 0-1 yards.

Hill presses holes. Our run game still isn't great, so sometimes he runs into guys backs, but he doesn't miss holes and he has enough steam to break a tackle or two or fall forward.

Jam has seemingly stopped doing it completely. And it is another reason that his YPC after contact numbers are the worst in the country - he is already reacting and has no momentum once he gets to defenders. So he just drops.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 5:24 pm
Posted by bamabaum
Montgomery, AL
Member since Jul 2014
1316 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 6:36 pm to
75 got whipped.
Posted by MrPigskin
Member since Sep 2023
1019 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:09 pm to
Formby and Roberts both looked bad on that play, kinda concerning how our linemen don’t hold their blocks long enough. By now, you’d think they’d be better at locking a guy up with their hand placement, leverage, etc.
Gotta wonder if that’s on o-line coaching. But Proctor did mention last week that the coaches were harping on them to hold their blocks longer, so I don’t know.
I did go back and watch a couple of games when we had the duo of Lacy & Yeldon. Man were they good at side stepping the first guy and getting thru the open hole without losing forward momentum. Didn’t realize Lacy was as good at that as he was.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 7:39 pm
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:29 pm to
This is not a good example. There really wasn’t anything there.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45920 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:56 pm to
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he's initiating cuts so early


Yep. He is making a cut often with his first full step after getting the handoff a couple of yards behind the LoS. Dancing like that a bit is fine if you're fast with a boost button like Gibbs and can outrun the defense, but for a runner like Jam it's fatal to the play. He's not fast or shifty enough for the way he seems to want to run. Hill at least runs like his body type and skill set dictate he should run. He's big, he knows he's big, and he wants to try to run through tackles.
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
6079 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 8:27 pm to
6 Off players to block basically a 7 man front! Numbers are not in their favor. I don’t think he gets a first down regardless of which way he cut…he’s not that quick!
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3791 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:41 am to
RG was slanting left but also got shoved back by their DT.

RT gets to the 2nd level but can't make the block.

TE comes in for the wham block on the DE but there is no hole.

LG basically takes on a double team and held up ok.

The CB is also coming downhill from the outside.

Sadly this play was just bad all the way around. If they check out and Ty throws it up top it should be an easy first down.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:50 am to
Formby on that play

Posted by LaneB
Member since Oct 2021
567 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:25 pm to
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Formby and Roberts both looked bad on that play, kinda concerning how our linemen don’t hold their blocks long enough. By now, you’d think they’d be better at locking a guy up with their hand placement, leverage, etc.
Gotta wonder if that’s on o-line coaching. But Proctor did mention last week that the coaches were harping on them to hold their blocks longer, so I don’t know.
I did go back and watch a couple of games when we had the duo of Lacy & Yeldon. Man were they good at side stepping the first guy and getting thru the open hole without losing forward momentum. Didn’t realize Lacy was as good at that as he was.


Lacy was a terror even more so than Henry .. loved seeing that violence
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
3032 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:37 pm to
Lots of times it’s 1 missed block..

But none of our backs, Hill included have any twitch in their step.

Football is a numbers game.. sometimes it 6 on 7 or 4 on 5.

Great backs, heck even good backs make 1 man miss. They break a tackle, jump cut etc.

Currently, we have no one that’s shown that ability.

Riley is quick but he’s not healthy apparently. Jam displays no explosive movement.. Hill is serviceable, but he isn’t a polished runner
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13225 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:44 pm to
When the last time youve seen one of RBs make someone miss? Running backs supposed to make the first man miss.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4879 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:39 pm to
There was nothing in that play.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
8085 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:19 pm to
When I watched it live my first thought was Cleveland Browns Trent Richardson.

3rd and 4th down there were embarrassing.
Posted by Hawaiian Punch
Member since Jan 2018
956 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:19 am to
Id love to see DeBoer/Grubb/Kap explain this one in film review.
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RG was slanting left but also got shoved back by their DT.

RT gets to the 2nd level but can't make the block.

TE comes in for the wham block on the DE but there is no hole.

LG basically takes on a double team and held up ok.

The CB is also coming downhill from the outside.

Sadly this play was just bad all the way around. If they check out and Ty throws it up top it should be an easy first down.

This looks to me like the run was designed to go left - all OL immediately slide left at the snap; Cuevas seals the back side. Jam gets the snap, plants with his right foot and starts moving to the left, then started running slightly up the middle just after the first cutback to the left (he probably thought the running lane to the left that was supposed to be there got blown up; he’s not totally wrong). Jam then cuts it back to the right side, running off of Cuevas’s block. Play dead just after that.

- On the C, LG, & LT:
- - Brailsford fires out left immediately after the snap, gets to the second level and demolishes the LSU LBer. Good job 72.
- - post-snap, LG engages with the DT over him and the right-side LSU edge defender (lined up on the LOS just outside of Proctor) immediately crashes in to double team the LG. The LG looks like he initially begins to twist and seal the DT but then switches off and chases the crashing LSU Edge defender outside, and both the LG and DE/Edge were essentially run out of the play. The DT Dewberry initially engaged recovered and filled the running lane to the left.
- - I think 74 should have either engaged, or at least chipped, LSUs right-side DE/Edge (on the double team the LG was dealing with). If you engage him, you handle the LSU DE at least, and maybe get to the second level to engage the DB that Proctor initially went after right out of the gate. If you don’t get to the block on the DB here, at least the RB has to make only him miss. If Proctor’s main assignment was the DB coming up, at least chip the LSU Edge defender hard as shite and knock him on his arse (as he was already off balance from the snap and even ended up stumbling once he got to Dewberry) so the LG can neutralize the DT like he was initially doing rather than worry about handling the double team.

- on RG and RT:
- - RG starts to slant left but gets knocked off his spot and back a bit (by about a yard). If Roberts was stronger at the point of attack just after the ball was snapped, or even was able to recover and get a down block on the DT he was engaged with (or seal him to the right), there would have been a nice running lane on the left if the C-LT executed like described above.
- - RT Formby.. I have no clue.. no words. That was just bad. Had we run left, his mishap wouldn’t have even mattered, but that was sad - he must straight up whiffed.

- - Cuevas actually did an adequate job of sealing his guy on the back side (or what should have been the back side of the play)

*Disclaimer: I’m not expert about OL technique and blocking schemes. But this makes sense to me.

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