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Posted on 10/16/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 12:30 pm
What really worries me is I know for a FACT!! Saban helped scheme this game on defense. He was very hands on for prepping this game. This is where his pregame confidence came from saying we have a plan. We stuck too the plan and didn’t adjust. Then Saban in his presser said we needed to play better. You can’t play a safety one on one with a burner. They don’t have that kind of coverage skills. UT would run motion and stack to get the miss match. I’m worried Saban doesn’t realize it was a bad scheme. Just like he doesn’t see we have bad OC and DC. He is just happy we have stability and can recruit. Talent only goes so far when they are put in negative positions on the field. Go look at our recruiting classes and look at UTs. We also have the heisman trophy QB… tell me the game should have been even close.. this is poor coaching and it’s not the first time. You can’t expect players to win mismatches with no adjusting. The coaches job is to put them in a winnable situation. What we have done is setting them up for failure, but win off talent. I promise as a highschool coach we see this and try to never do it. The OC is absolutely to blame as well, we just saw what mismatches look like and how to scheme them. We keep saying our WRs never get separation. Then it’s on the OC to scheme it up.. kiffin and Sark were master of it. We just out talent people now, but scheme is not there. We should never go 7 straight 3 and outs against Texas. Nothing will change this season, but a deep dive into a overhaul needs to be looked at. If we are running the same routes we have been for 3 years we need to change it. Run your offense around the skill players and find mismatches. Look at the A&M game last year.. we never adjusted to the blitiz and kept running slow developing plays. It also takes forever for the play to come in and we run better high tempo. Look at our 2min drill success. The game never flows with the play calls.. and yes we have drops. But we shouldn’t constantly be in 2nd and 12. We are predictable and run the same plays over and over. No wrinkles or adjusting. We ran the same 4 pass plays all game with 2 option routes. It’s not good and a lot of former players have called it out. These might be the worst coordinators we have under Saban, with the most talent we have had as players. It’s frustrating.. we have to do more than recruit. Take away Bryce and this team loses 4 games with all that talent. Just my rant.. hope we get it figured out. We will be in SEC championship game.. we out talent everyone else left on our schedule by a mile
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
4447 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 12:38 pm to
If he can't see that was a bad coverage scheme with our safeties get burned repeatedly for 75+ yd TD's he's pretty bad off.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4361 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 12:47 pm to
You know he personally help prepared foe this game?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83459 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:22 pm to
I understand that coaching matters.

But uh, the safeties could have like, not been idiots and known that the dude they were covering was running really fast down the field.

They genuinely didn’t care about that and kept biting and crashing in while the receivers slapped them on the arse and said thanks.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:23 pm to
Yes.. he was in the Defensive meetings all week. He is always involved, but he was more involved this week.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
4447 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

They genuinely didn’t care about that and kept biting and crashing in while the receivers slapped them on the arse and said thanks.



Sounds like they needed time on the bench which goes back to coaching.
Posted by FeralFeral
Member since Dec 2017
961 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:44 pm to
No idea what Saban’s level of involvement is in the specific gameday schemes / coverages, but it does seem telling in any event that he seems to consistently attribute our failures almost exclusively to lack of execution of late - now moreso than ever, I think. That’s kind of a hope killer even if you assume that our issues are 100% execution (which they most definitely aren’t). Like, if you find yourself saying that over and over, isn’t it time to think about making some substantial changes instead of just thinking a good week of practice will give meaningful improvement?
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4361 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:22 pm to
Interesting.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
2919 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:35 pm to
I'm afraid it won't get better unless some people he respects brings it to his attention. I think some former players that Saban respects could help out alot if willing.
Posted by LucedaleTider
Lucedale
Member since Sep 2022
303 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:40 pm to
Reason Golding isn’t fired is that he’s running saban’s D with Saban’s seal of approval. What better sign that this must be true do you need than despite worse performance Golding keeps coming back year after year.

I think the reason Golding is there is he needs a smart like guy to recruit these high school players. Hard to relate to a 70 year old living legend but Pete well he’s pretty relatable.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
14646 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:43 pm to
Notice how we’re not jumping all over teams in the 1Q consistently anymore? We’re an extremely easy team to scheme for under the current regime. If not for BY being the generational talent he is, this is a 8-4 team.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:16 pm to
Couldn't agree more!!
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:05 pm to
We're missing a reciever that can take the top off. That's how we've previously owned the 1Q. I thought that's why we brought in Harrell from Louisville but I didn't know the extent of his injury.
Posted by hnds2th
Valley of the Sun
Member since May 2019
3033 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:13 pm to
Thank you for your insights.

Two points in response:

If that’s true about Saban, it sounds like hubris has set in and I never thought that possible.

Secondly, I left tidefans awhile ago, but occasionally I go back and take a peek.

I found this tidbit in the post game thread

“ Yes to all of it. Yes. The penalties. Yes. UT getting away with blatant personal fouls on Bryce Young. Yes. The DPI at the end, when Kool-Aid got the INT. Yes. Oh my Lord YES to the OC and the DC just flat out having no clue whatsoever.

But I'm going to say this as gently as I can. There is rot in this program. A lack of discipline and order that we have taken for granted. And I'm not sure there is time at this point to turn it around. I'm talking big picture here.

Of course we came back when down 28-10. We've got more talent on our sideline than any other program right now. But we've lost the basics. I'm not sure I can say anymore than that at this time.

Roll Tide anyway, and forever.”

Take it for what it’s worth, but I don’t like reading that kind of stuff about Alabama.
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:26 pm to
Well this is a bit concerning. What is this poster alluding to?
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:46 pm to
Just a guess...

Rot... Lack of focus or attention to detail by the staff and down to the players. Complacency.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 7:47 pm
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:40 pm to
What I’d love to know is who are the 2 ostrich-headed dumbasses who downvote an actual coach telling you what’s wrong with this football program…
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 8:41 pm
Posted by hnds2th
Valley of the Sun
Member since May 2019
3033 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

What is this poster alluding to?


That was the post in its entirety and no follow up. So can only take from it what he stated.

As I’ve stated on other threads, last few teams are missing “alphas”. IMO
Posted by BCBAMA
Southeast Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
834 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:21 pm to
I have had concern for 2 years about this. NIL, the transfer portal, and long program success have caught up with us, among other things. I see no urgency or emotion from this coaching staff. The first real emotion I have seen from Saban that was anything like himself was on the fumbled punt embarrassment that happened when a player attempted to scoop up a ball he thought had touched one of his teammates. I trust Coach Saban fully, but there have been some very visible things wrong with our program for 2 years now. I sense complacency from the staff and players too.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:30 am to
We need some fresh ideas and a change of cards on defense. Just like we did on offense, but Saban is going to have to let them run their show. One of the big things is Bama has an offense and a Defensive play book and you as an OC or DC have to learn it. You can call plays from it, even add on offense but it’s Bama’s. It’s time for a revamping and I’m not sure Saban will do that on Defense. That’s his baby and it’s complicated. That’s why it’s hard for freshman to play.. it’s honesty too advanced now. That’s why we keep hearing players didn’t execute and out of positions. It’s takes 2 plus years to learn and with transfers and NIL it’s too much. We have one of the most experienced teams right now and they can’t nail it down. We have talent like Ricks and he can’t learn it yet. We need to sometimes Let the players play. If you are constantly thinking about not messing up and multiple reads you can’t play fast. That takes years and it’s why we don’t attack anymore. We are out smarting ourselves. You can see us during motions trying to call out different assignments and we look confused. Espically if they run uptempo. This year it’s a lot more on the back end.. if you have a safety trying to read 3 looks and covers the release guy when he crosses him.. it’s too late at the point. He has ran bye you and you are playing catch up. Alot of the reason you see us chasing receivers with our backs turned. We don’t have that kind of speed at Safety.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 4:34 am
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