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re: SEC office just scheduled southern miss game for 11...

Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:55 am to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:55 am to
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Yeah it was embarrassing. I was also at the game we lost to LaTech on a last second pass. I tell my nephews all the time they don’t know how good they got it, they know nothing but Bama winning and being dominant


I still find myself pouring a drink when we play teams like Vandy and Arkansas because I was conditioned by Mike Shula to believe that no matter how shitty our opponent was, we would always find a way to play to their level.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:45 am to
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When I pointed out the September scheduling disparity last week, it wasn’t a complaint. Didn’t want to see hundreds of fans treated for heat problems and wanted the SEC office to acknowledge that one member is allowed to set its own kickoff times. Neither has happened yet.


LSU?

Is this true?

If so, W.T.F.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:55 am to
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LSU?

Is this true?



Cecil tweeted out yesterday that since the new TV contract with teh SEC Network, LSU has had 12 OOC September games at home, and all 12 have been at night. Alabama has had 1 at night out of like 9 or 10.

I don't know that LSU has been allowed to set the time, but it is curious. It's more likely the networks have fallen for the mystique of Tiger Stadium at night more than anything.
Posted by UAgrad93
Sylacauga
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:58 am to
How does Arky-San Jose State make sense in the later slot?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 8:46 am to
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How does Arky-San Jose State make sense in the later slot?


Because it's probably the least attractive game on the slate, so they put it at the same time as the marquee matchup of the day. Hardly anyone outside of Arkansas is going to watch that game, so most eyes will be on the CBS broadcast of the UGA-ND game. Any of the other games would likely have higher viewership.
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2785 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 8:47 am to
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How does Arky-San Jose State make sense in the later slot?


From a TV and conference perspective, I would never want Alabama to go against my best game of the week. The conference wants as many eyes on ND-UGA as possible. While the difference may not seem huge, our game would take away more eyes from CBS than Arky-SJSU.

Not saying I agree with their choice, I just think that is the logic behind it.
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3090 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 9:29 am to
I know ESPN doesn't want anything competing with Gameday, but start crappy games like NMS at 9 or 10 AM. Nobody outside of Alabama fans were watching that game anyway, and from reading the responses in various threads here, a lot of Alabama fans didn't even watch the whole game.

This will never happen, of course, but it's a solution for these September OOC cupcake games.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13934 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 10:17 am to
Sounds like it's going to be a while before we see the big light show. I can say that I've sat in BDS and Legion Field on some mighty hot days wondering the meaning of life and what I was doing there. Times a changing and apparently I'm not alone. I have 2 home games scheduled right now.

Tennessee, if it's a night game and LSU, just because. But Mother Nature, these days, deserves our utmost respect.
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2785 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 10:21 am to
I'm betting Ole Miss will be a night game. I can't ever remember our first SEC home game being 11am.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3223 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 10:41 am to
Seems like they are proud of the heat.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 10:49 am to
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I can't ever remember our first SEC home game being 11am.




The Arkansas game in Saban's second year was a JP 11:30(I think) game. It was definitely a morning kickoff. That's the last one I remember. I remember several Vandy games being on JP in the 80's and 90's. That was our SEC opener a lot of years.


ETA: But you said home game. That Arkansas game in 08 was at Arkansas. So scratch that.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 10:50 am
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
2919 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:05 am to
Let's have Byrne announce that the game against Sounthern Miss will start at 6PM regardless of the TV contract.
Let's see what they do about it. Alabama is their cash cow.
If it's true that LSU is allowed to choose their game time, it's a benefit for them in recruiting and shouldn't be allowed.
You've got recruits enjoying a night game atmosphere plus having the school on prime time tv.
Posted by Goldtide1
Member since Oct 2018
2108 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:27 am to
That’s what Byrne ought to do. I guarantee that game would still get televised.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:12 pm to
That would be stupid. At the end of the day, Alabama is in a contract with SEC/ESPN. That effort wouldn’t be worth the PR hit we’d take and whatever money we’d owe. If we had players dropping on the field and fans actually dying instead of just getting “treatment” and the SEC still isn’t changing course, then maybe you make a move like that. I’d rattle our saber a little bit like this and then when we really need Sankey for something, then we pull out the “you owe us one pal.”

ESPN is just looking at their bottom line, which is their right. The Mouse wants his money. That said, I think ESPN has to look at the larger picture in that driving fans away from attending college games ultimately gives them an inferior product to sell. I’m not saying we need to set our own kick times, but ESPN would probably be better served to give the schools some flexibility during the next round of negotiations.

BTW, I’m not a fan of Sankey. He’s kind of an empty suit. Makes Slive look like Ronald Reagan.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 2:05 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:25 pm to
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The Arkansas game in Saban's second year was a JP 11:30(I think) game. It was definitely a morning kickoff. That's the last one I remember. I remember several Vandy games being on JP in the 80's and 90's. That was our SEC opener a lot of years.


ETA: But you said home game. That Arkansas game in 08 was at Arkansas. So scratch that.


2005 Arkansas game was JP

Like you said a bunch of Vandy games
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
2919 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:47 pm to
The network would still show the game. No way they keep it off tv. An athletic director standing up for his team and fans. I'll take that PR hit.
The network and conference are at fault anyway for allowing us to only have 1 night out of conference game the past 5 years while nearly all of LSU's have been at night.
Heck, smart mouth Malzahn said he wished he was playing at noon. Byrne should publicly offer to swap spots and put him in his place.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:52 pm to
BTW, how annoying is it that the default response to any gripe made by Alabama is "suck it up" or 'poor Bama."? I know that kind of comes with the territory of the having the success we've had and I totally expect it from rival fans. However, even national writers who proclaim to be unbiased and act as if they are the keepers of the sport are the ones usually at the front of the mob.

Saban has gone on rant after rant about how we have been trying to schedule better teams but the go-to line lately has been "schedule better" by the college football pundits. It's so lazy. Sure, Battle absolutely could've done a better job finding some P5 opponents, but a story about the list of teams that turned down the chance to play us would get a lot more clicks than the tired "Saban/Alabama need to stop scheduling cupcakes"

I've said it over and over again. If the national CFB media would actually listen & comprehend what Saban says and investigate the legitimacy/context of his claim instead of just parroting lazy tired narratives, they would find a lot more content and be so much better off. I've really grown tired of the CFB chattering class like Finebaum, Mandel, Staples, Dodd, Wolken, Hayes, Feldman, etc. They've developed a real sense of entitlement amongst their clique and push a lot of lazy stories. Wish we had more people like Cecil Hurt who actually look at the context of things.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:26 pm to
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BTW, how annoying is it that the default response to any gripe made by Alabama is "suck it up" or 'poor Bama."? I know that kind of comes with the territory of the having the success we've had and I totally expect it from rival fans. However, even national writers who proclaim to be unbiased and act as if they are the keepers of the sport are the ones usually at the front of the mob.

Saban has gone on rant after rant about how we have been trying to schedule better teams but the go-to line lately has been "schedule better" by the college football pundits. It's so lazy. Sure, Battle absolutely could've done a better job finding some P5 opponents, but a story about the list of teams that turned down the chance to play us would get a lot more clicks than the tired "Saban/Alabama need to stop scheduling cupcakes"

I've said it over and over again. If the national CFB media would actually listen & comprehend what Saban says and investigate the legitimacy/context of his claim instead of just parroting lazy tired narratives, they would find a lot more content and be so much better off. I've really grown tired of the CFB chattering class like Finebaum, Mandel, Staples, Dodd, Wolken, Hayes, Feldman, etc. They've developed a real sense of entitlement amongst their clique and push a lot of lazy stories. Wish we had more people like Cecil Hurt who actually look at the context of things.





Yea, it's annoying, but that is the default position towards us these days.

The stats are clear as day - we play less night games in September in 100 degree heat than anyone else in the SEC. There is no discussion to be had, it's fact. And yet, supposedly intelligent people are portraying us as asking for something that others don't have.

But, that's pretty typical in 2019.
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
994 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:14 pm to
Reminds me of the stat from the … 2008 season, maybe? When something like six of our nine SEC opponents had bye weeks before playing us.

At some point you have to look at the SEC office (which other fanbases absolutely swear is in our back pocket) and wonder why they're out to kill the standard bearer.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16980 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:18 pm to
Fackkkkk I will be there and that sucks being early but also great as you have the rest of the day. It will be hot AF though.
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