re: Rumors about Milroe

The thing is while it took a while, he actually showed some improvement as he moved forward. No. 4 isn’t giving any indication that he’s going to.

I can only speculate, but I have to assume that what allowed Hurts to improve more than anything was the relief of pressure that comes with being the backup with Enos coaching him closely. He already was physically capable and was decent at making reads when he was relaxed. He just couldn’t handle pressure well.

Milroe imo has made terrible decisions even under relatively relaxed circumstances (see Ark last year, S Car and USF this year.)
He is just not a speed reader, even in a single read situation, as evidenced by his much noted ill-advised RPO keeps and East-West draw losses, in addition to the numerous unforced eye-candy picks. All of this is compounded by the fact that he STILL can’t call audibles / hot routes pre-snap even after the intro of helmet comms.

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Just to make Carlton happy, he said Mack was the most self motivated, getting there early and staying late to work on mechanics and his route tree throws outside of his film room time.

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You mean he gets there before Milroe who supposedly gets there at 4:30 am?

I ran into Bookers father after UGA. Didn’t mince his words, said the culture was significantly more relaxed and “fun” from Saban

Seems like the lax stuff lines up

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That’s all disappointing to hear

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Yeah, I had to quit talking about it with him because it was kind of ruining my spirit if Thanksgiving.

You said the key word: accountability.

We will never get another Saban. And like you said, it’s going to be hard to be a Saban anywhere moving forward given the fact that with NIL and the portal it’s going to be tough to have that kind of hammer.

But it doesn’t take a hammer for there to be accountability.

And I am going to invite flames by saying ultimately it’s going to be up to the players to adjust to the coaching staff and be dedicated and prepare and produce because they want to rather than because someone is standing over them making them. You want to be at Alabama there should be a certain amount of drive and self motivation.

I’m not sure why anyone thinks NIL prevents accountability. It’s not like Ohio State or Texas are running some loose program

No but Sarkisian and Day have never been mistaken for Paul Bryant at Junction, either, let alone Saban in the heyday of “The Process.”

That’s brutal, we’re going to lose a lot of games we shouldn’t if that’s the case.

If DeBoer is just a better Xs and Os Mike Shula, we are so screwed. Winning culture is all about work ethic. It doesn’t matter how much yelling there is, just how much work.

This makes sense as to why DeBoer does better with extra time (bye week, 1st round playoff or bowl game), because there’s enough time to put in all the work needed. If he only has 1 week, then we aren’t as prepared as those who put in the extra work.

Sounds like it’s going to be a very frustrating and volatile several years, where success will be inordinately based on player leadership.

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If that’s what you think, I’d suggest actually watching football and learning something about the game. DeBoer has been a successful coach everywhere he’s been, or did you miss that? We are in a transition year. Not to mention in an environment where players don’t go to a school, develop and progress within the program. It’s the Wild West, where you have to recruit your own team as well as your regular recruiting….AND recruiting other teams to fill holes too. Apparently none of you have noticed there is no elite team this year. Everyone has the same problems, the only teams who have great records with very few exceptions have shite schedules. The sky isn’t falling chicken little.

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Bro, you might want to make sure you know about the game before questioning whether others do. Your own post debunks itself, because DeBoer’s previous winning was largely against a bad schedule, and others have already posted how DeBoer’s team often under performed against worse competition. That’s what happens when you have a lax culture. Everyone gets up for the big games, but good coaching has teams prepared for almost every game.

The “DeBoer has won everywhere” argument is very superficial with zero analytical thought. DeBoer has only won with underrated recruits that generally had chips on their shoulders. He’s never won big or coached a team full of blue chip millionaires. A laxed coaching style can work with a team full of overachievers trying to prove themselves, it will never work with 18-20 year old millionaires. There’s a reason why NFL requires 3 years out of highschool, and it isn’t just physical traits. Newly minted millionaires who haven’t matured often implode, and you can’t just “show up and play” in football the way superstars can in basketball or baseball. A laxed coaching style won’t seriously compete for NCs unless all the pieces fall into place with a bunch of A+ blue chip work ethic guys that now have money. Those are going to be very, very rare individuals and we’d need 22 of them. We’re going to win some big games, and lose ones we shouldn’t, just like this year. No one should be surprised at this year’s results after reading Crimson K’s post. That’s exactly what a laxed culture gets you in the SEC. DeBoer can get away with that in conferences that only have 2 teams with decent recruiting, but the SEC has 10 teams with decent talent every year. That means 2-3 losses against teams you should beat.

Before attacking another poster, maybe make sure you know what you are talking about.