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re: QB Austin Mack: ‘He's Definitely going to be a household name’

Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22235 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:54 am to
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Milroe is the starter we will be bad because he is bad and will always be bad.



I like to ignore the only actual evidence I have in favor of hopes and dreams.

I KNOW Milroe has some serious deficiencies, but I like his smile so I'm ignoring them and thinking the other three 4/5 star qb's on the roster will probably be worse.

In the end, the coaches will do the evaluating, and maybe Milroe IS the best option. But, as a fan with limited access, I'm going to make my guesses based on what I've seen so far. And I struggle to believe that Jalen is going to be the best option with all these guys basically having a clean slate and a brand new play book.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18051 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:41 am to
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we know he cannot get better


How do we know this? It's not exactly unprecedented for someone to improve from year to year.

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What we do know is that the players that haven't played any or much at all are capable of all of those things and more.


How do we know this?

Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1961 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:46 am to
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How do we know this? It's not exactly unprecedented for someone to improve from year to year.


How do we know this?


It's sarcasm. Many posters on this board believe those sentiments though.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
7874 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:48 pm to
Got to mention, I don't know how the QB room will shake out for Spring but there is one thing I love about Milroe...

With the kind of exodus we were having, Jalen never wavered. Kudos to the others, they could have pulled a Julian Sayin. But Jalen in particular, could have made a killing on the open market. I'm proud of the kids' commitment.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15830 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:49 pm to
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I KNOW Milroe has some serious deficiencies,


Well maybe Milroe will be better when our center isnt giving him the ball by rolling it like he is bowling.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22235 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:34 pm to
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Well maybe Milroe will be better when our center isnt giving him the ball by rolling it like he is bowling.


Ah, yes, Milroe fans' favorite scapegoat.

It wouldn't have hurt to have better snaps. But, running the full playbook, and having the qb recognize blitzes, call out protections (rather than having the coaches trying to do it from the sideline, or having an already struggling center do it), throwing the ball behind the blitz, not holding the ball for 4+ seconds every snap so that the o-line has no chance, or throwing the ball away to avoid a 15 yard sack, or seeing the wide open guy, or anticipating and throwing on time to where a receiver was going to be open MIGHT have been even more helpful. But what do I know. Milroe was 6th or something in the Heisman voting, so it was probably just those few snaps that were his problem.
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
7160 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:27 am to
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It wouldn't have hurt to have better snaps. But, running the full playbook, and having the qb recognize blitzes, call out protections (rather than having the coaches trying to do it from the sideline, or having an already struggling center do it), throwing the ball behind the blitz, not holding the ball for 4+ seconds every snap so that the o-line has no chance, or throwing the ball away to avoid a 15 yard sack, or seeing the wide open guy, or anticipating and throwing on time to where a receiver was going to be open MIGHT have been even more helpful. But what do I know. Milroe was 6th or something in the Heisman voting, so it was probably just those few snaps that were his problem.


Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
7160 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:58 pm to
DeBear speaking at the Senior Bowl:

Coach, why did you bring Austin Mack to Alabama ?

"His skill set, all the tools he brings, the arm talent,... he has a really great head on his shoulders, for him to do what he did last year, and reclassify and come in as young as he was and learn the offense as fast as anyone I've ever seen. He just has to continue to develop, and he sees the challenge ahead as an opportunity, and hes excited about this opportunity, and he's excited to be here, and we are excited to have him here."



Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:57 pm to
First, I think Milroe might actually improve with the QB whisperer on campus.

Second, Mack may beat out Jalen without controversy because Mack ... let me put it this way ... no one would bench Jalen for Mack because they are a bigot. So the coach can do what needs to be done either way.

The thing about Milroe is, while good, he was overhyped by the media to the point where benching him would smell funny, if you get my drift. So let's just say fortune has smiled on us and may the best man win.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7521 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:37 am to
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He wasn't great last year. The Milroe-is-awesome-because-he-made-some-big-plays-and-muh-heisman-odds people are worse than those who are pointing out his deficiencies.


Id bet anything Milroe has a fantastic season this year. This will be his third year that he has started games, he will be far better coached this season and he will be in a much superior offense
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
17487 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:50 am to
I dont think players care very much about that shite. Players on offense want the guy who can run the offense the best and get them the ball. Thats why they wanted some short Hawaiian pudgy kid over the very jacked, and very likeable brother from Texas.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12400 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:11 am to
As long as we put the best player on the field and and use every resource available to develop them I could care less who is at QB.
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
7160 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:09 am to
Ryan Williams :

"Im looking forward to working with Austin Mack. He has experience watching a national championship caliber team, (QB) and he can throw the ball really well. I think with our connection we'll score a lot of Touchdowns and Win A Lot of Games."



I'm telling yall don't sleep on Mack. DeBear, Grubb, Penix, and now Ryan Williams is gushing over Austin Mack. He could have obviously said Milroe. He could have said Simpson. He could have said Lonergan,... but he didn't. He said he's already got a connection with Austin Mack.



This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by jjv0004
Greenville, SC
Member since Sep 2022
499 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:14 pm to
Ryan Williams' Wide Receiver coach seemingly told 24/7 Sports that Austin Mack was next in line when telling the outlet about Williams' recruiting visit:

"They sat down with Austin Mack and Ryan together. They kind of told them, once Jalen graduates, that they would be the faces of the program. He told them that they could throw for a bunch of yards and both of them decided to come there."

- Daniel Taylor
Posted by Remiden
Member since Jan 2018
1322 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:54 pm to
I don't think they can afford for Mack to beat out Jalen before fall camp ends, and especially not in spring. Should he do that, you could potentially see Jalen, Simpson, and Lonergan transfer out leaving just Mack and having to scramble for a portal backup. I'm sure Simpson wouldn't stay, and doubt Lonergan would.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18206 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 6:14 pm to
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Should he do that, you could potentially see Jalen, Simpson, and Lonergan transfer out leaving just Mack and having to scramble for a portal backup.

This is silly.
Posted by Remiden
Member since Jan 2018
1322 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 6:26 pm to
Why would this be silly? If it was apparent after spring that a redshirt freshman was the starter, why would Jalen or Simpson stay? They both want to be backups to an underclassman? I would understand possibly Lonergan staying, but not the other two. I could also understand Lonergan leaving.

If they are truly introducing Mack as the future face of the program, I don't think Simpson will stay after spring. And he shouldn't if that's the case. This is his third year. If he has NFL aspirations, he needs to find a starting spot soon.
Posted by PowHound
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Member since Jul 2014
7160 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:08 pm to
Does the portal open in the fall ?

I think the next big round of transfers is in the spring.

I'd think you'd want to name a QB, and see who goes so you can backfill with what is available in the portal in the spring.

It doesn't matter if Milroe or Mack get named starter. Either one will likely send Simpson and Longergan into the portal.

These guys are all shooting for the job this year. That's why I say just get it over with, and let the Mack era begin. You can't dodge the transfer debacle either way

Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
7160 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:49 pm to
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scottydoesntknow


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Id bet anything Milroe has a fantastic season this year. This will be his third year that he has started games, he will be far better coached this season and he will be in a much superior offense





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PowHound



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The first huge test for DeBear IMO will be to resist the pressure to build an offense around Milroe to appease the locker room.

Whichever QB can run his offense the way it is designed to be run, and distribute the ball to ALL the skill players, and protect the football should be the QB.

If you dont like it theres the door. It's time to reinvigorate this program with a big dose of "nobody is guaranteed a job."

If Milroe is that guy, Great.

This season we actually are going to have difference makers at RB. I dont want a QB stealing 20 carries from Justice and Jam per game.

May the best QB win no matter who it is, but please pick a QB that can run this offense to it's potential. Really big test here IMO to make a statement the HC is in charge, and will make the best decisions for the team no matter what public opinion thinks.



One of these post is impressively insightful- damn near Nostradamus level foresight. The other post... oof, not so much.

Scotty are you so angry all the time because you know you're an ignorant dumbass ? I'm just kidding, dude. I like your username; hilarious movie.

Scotty doesn't know ! Scotty doesn't know ! Scotty doesn't know !

Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
1464 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:46 pm to
Edit. Delete. Saw a post and then realized I was about 8 months too late.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 7:52 pm
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