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re: Protests blowing up in Downtown Birmingham
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:14 am to YStar
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:14 am to YStar
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If we're going to be honest with ourselves when the protest was only kneeling people said it was too much, disrespectful and they shouldn't do that either.
Tell me how many protesters were at work, on the clock while protesting. Amazing the general public comes in at close to 0%... but the nfl guys just don't get it.
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:31 am to YStar
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If we're going to be honest with ourselves when the protest was only kneeling people said it was too much, disrespectful and they shouldn't do that either.
YStar with the worst take possible, as usual.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:43 am to imjustafatkid
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They chased down the CBS 42 reporter too. Right as she went live on air. This is not the same person as the ABC3340 and Al dot com reporters who were attacked.
They chased down the CBS 42 reporter too. Right as she went live on air. This is not the same person as the ABC3340 and Al dot com reporters who were attacked.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:49 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Imagine if you all had the same anger and vitriol you have for FunnyMaine for our President that has fueled a lot of the violence himself. Or for the police that have instigated a lot of the violence in cities across the country and have targeted peaceful protesters and media. Or for the police officers that actually touched off this whole thing by murdering a man.
And look I get it somewhat. I live in Birmingham, and it sucks to see many local businesses cleaning up a mess this morning. It sucks to see a handful of local reporters were attacked There are a few reports from people at Linn Park last night that the ones that started the damaging of property(other than the monument) arrived well after the main portion of the Linn Park event.
And I'm not defending FunnyMaine. He'll have to answer for his own actions. It's just sad to see him being held to a higher standard than the president or the various police departments across the country.
And look I get it somewhat. I live in Birmingham, and it sucks to see many local businesses cleaning up a mess this morning. It sucks to see a handful of local reporters were attacked There are a few reports from people at Linn Park last night that the ones that started the damaging of property(other than the monument) arrived well after the main portion of the Linn Park event.
And I'm not defending FunnyMaine. He'll have to answer for his own actions. It's just sad to see him being held to a higher standard than the president or the various police departments across the country.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:53 am to The Spleen
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Or for the police officers that actually touched off this whole thing by murdering a man.
What do citizens of Birmingham, Alabama, have to protest regarding a death of a man in Minnesota?
Why burn down your local businesses for a death that occurred 1,000 miles away?
In what world does that make sense?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:59 am to TideSaint
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What do citizens of Birmingham, Alabama, have to protest regarding a death of a man in Minnesota?
You think what happened in Minnesota is something that only happens there? You think the underlying problems that allowed that to happen with no arrests for several days is just a problem within that particular department?
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Why burn down your local businesses for a death that occurred 1,000 miles away?
There's no excuse for that, and has nothing to do with the point I made.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:03 am to Wroll Tyde
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The point was, and is, that a protest by millionaires at a football game during the national anthem is neither the time nor the place.
I'd respond that you don't get to determine the time or place for a peaceful protest. If you don't like it, close your eyes.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:04 am to The Spleen
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Imagine if you all had the same anger and vitriol you have for FunnyMaine for our President that has fueled a lot of the violence himself. Or for the police that have instigated a lot of the violence in cities across the country and have targeted peaceful protesters and media. Or for the police officers that actually touched off this whole thing by murdering a man.
And look I get it somewhat. I live in Birmingham, and it sucks to see many local businesses cleaning up a mess this morning. It sucks to see a handful of local reporters were attacked There are a few reports from people at Linn Park last night that the ones that started the damaging of property(other than the monument) arrived well after the main portion of the Linn Park event.
And I'm not defending FunnyMaine. He'll have to answer for his own actions. It's just sad to see him being held to a higher standard than the president or the various police departments across the country.
Look, I really respect people's right to protest, and I support that.
But please tell me, what has Trump done to warrant people destroying businesses and property, and assaulting people? And you are really trying to hold LE responsible for these looters and rioters attacking people and destroying businesses?
I haven't seen many people at all defending those 4 officers actions. It is objectively bad what they did. What I do see is a lot of people defending violent riots, and looting, or at least remaining silent on the matter.
What am I missing here, Spleen?
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:10 am to The Spleen
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Or for the police officers that actually touched off this whole thing by murdering a man.
I agree with everything else you said, but based on the ME's findings I'm not sure you can call it an actual murder. The cops didn't exactly help the situation or do anything to prevent him from dying, but the autopsy results were shitty heart + a ton of drugs + acute stress from being arrested. No asphyxiation. No strangulation.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:13 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'd respond that you don't get to determine the time or place for a peaceful protest. If you don't like it, close your eyes.
But the owners of the teams do. Their inaction is why I'll never watch another NFL game. Telling the players to protest on their own time was a simple thing to do.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:13 am to TideSaint
quote:How do y'all not get that this is much bigger than just one death in Minnesota?
What do citizens of Birmingham, Alabama, have to protest regarding a death of a man in Minnesota?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:14 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:I think they definitely help escalate it.
And you are really trying to hold LE responsible for these looters and rioters attacking people and destroying businesses?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:18 am to Wroll Tyde
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The point was, and is, that a protest by millionaires at a football game during the national anthem is neither the time nor the place.
Says who?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:19 am to Funky Tide 8
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But please tell me, what has Trump done to warrant people destroying businesses and property, and assaulting people? And you are really trying to hold LE responsible for these looters and rioters attacking people and destroying businesses?
The crazy part is the defense of the rioters seems to change depending on the person defending them. One person says this is all justified, the next says it's white supremacist infiltrators (admitting antifa is the problem would apparently be terrible), or somehow it's both. It's pretty clear these folks are in denial that their own ideology and rhetoric led to this, and it has nothing to do with a cop in Minnesota.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:20 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:19 am to TideSaint
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What do citizens of Birmingham, Alabama, have to protest regarding a death of a man in Minnesota?
You have got to be joking right? You are far smarter than this.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:20 am to pvilleguru
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I think they definitely help escalate it.
They didn't escalate anything in Birmingham.
And what happened? People were assaulted, and property/businesses were destroyed.
So where do you draw the line? When is LE supposed to get involved? When is trying to combat anarchy considered "escalation?"
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:20 am to Funky Tide 8
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But please tell me, what has Trump done to warrant people destroying businesses and property, and assaulting people?
Don't conflate things. He's been spewing his "media is the enemy" line since he was campaigning. You think it's just a coincidence there are scores of reports of journalists being arrested and being hit with tear gas, pepper bags, and rubber bullets? Has he come out and condemned the actions of cops targeting peaceful protesters? Is it responsible to blame all of the looting and property destruction on Antifa?
Look, I think we can all agree there are a lot of bad actors at these protests and riots, all with their own grievances and agendas. I think we can all agree the actions of all of them should be condemned.
My point was that this morning across this board, the main SEC Rant, and the OT Board, there are multi-page threads going after FunnyMaine, but one mention of Trump's actions and inactions since this started are met with TDS responses. People are holding a Facebook comedian turned activist to higher standard than the President. It's mind blowing, but I guess it shouldn't be.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:21 am to pvilleguru
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I think they definitely help escalate it.
Can't say this about Birmingham unless you're saying they escalated it because they weren't there.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:29 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:23 am to The Spleen
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Don't conflate things. He's been spewing his "media is the enemy" line since he was campaigning. You think it's just a coincidence there are scores of reports of journalists being arrested and being hit with tear gas, pepper bags, and rubber bullets?
Link to "scores of journalists being arrested and hit with tear gas, pepper bags, and rubber bullets?" I am not saying that you are wrong, but I didn't know that LE was sweeping up reporters in scores.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:24 am to The Spleen
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Don't conflate things. He's been spewing his "media is the enemy" line since he was campaigning.
I take it back. The Spleen is here with the worst possible take.
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