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re: Protests blowing up in Downtown Birmingham

Posted on 6/10/20 at 11:47 am to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 11:47 am to
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Why don't you go back on this thread and give BamaLand a direct quote from me so we all know where it all went wrong?

You have a problem with oppression when it fits what you feel is right. That’s why you have a problem with oppression with parts of the justice system and police force in this country. Which is fine. But at the same time you are fine with an oppressive regime like China suppressing the rights of their people.

Don’t say “we don’t know they did something drastic”. You specifically said a communist country can handle it better than democratic countries. In this thread alone you admitted you were fine with use of oppression when it fits your views. So you admitted they were oppressive there too.

You have some serious cognitive dissonance going on.

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Don't forget to mention that China's totalitarian government is bad. I wouldn't want you to get out of character.

Oh so now I’m playing a character by pointing out the truth? To which you yourself admitted more than once

Also didn’t answer why you wan ignore per capita when it comes to deaths
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 11:49 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 12:25 pm to
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That’s why you have a problem with oppression with parts of the justice system and police force in this country.


I said that I wholeheartedly agree with Trump's threat of overwhelming force to break up the looters and rioters.

Where's your direct quote from me that says otherwise?

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But at the same time you are fine with an oppressive regime like China suppressing the rights of their people.



Way to work that China thing in there. I knew you could it.

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You specifically said a communist country can handle it better than democratic countries.


Yep, I sure did. And in relation to COVID-19, that's all I said. Check the latest charts and graphs, I win in a court of law.


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In this thread alone you admitted you were fine with use of oppression when it fits your views. So you admitted they were oppressive there too.


Context dude, context. The more people are given options, the more people are expected to simply do the right thing, the more disappointing it can get. It's a human nature thing. The looters and rioters weren't going to simply get tired and go home, they were put out of business because they quickly ran out of options. Having a litany of options, during a pandemic has also put us on the wrong side of the charts and graphs with a bullet.

Having the "right" to make stupid decisions for yourself and others is not a virtue, just a "right."


Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 12:47 pm to
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I said that I wholeheartedly agree with Trump's threat of overwhelming force to break up the looters and rioters.

Where's your direct quote from me that says otherwise?

I have direct quotes from you being fine with oppression when it suites your views. You can't logically be against "rogue" cops in this country while also be fine what cops in other countries routinely do. I keep "working" China into it because it's something you clearly have no problem with.
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Yep, I sure did. And in relation to COVID-19, that's all I said. Check the latest charts and graphs, I win in a court of law.
You keep bringing up total deaths to fully determine who is doing worst. And that's not all you said, you were praising a communist's country handling of it compared to democratic nations. Because what "works in a communist country can't work here". So clearly implying their use of force. Why else bring up differences between the two? Hard to win a court of law when the results are likely forged or not transparent.

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Having a litany of options, during a pandemic has also put us on the wrong side of the charts and graphs with a bullet.

There you go again

Again why are you are ignoring per capita when it comes to covid deaths?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:13 pm to
No genuinely honest person can be on a democratic or republican side. Not if he thinks for himself and is willing to say it truthfully. That's rare and pretty much why you have a lot of difficulty framing your argument with me and trying to finish my thoughts.

The problems of the world are fundamental. The speed and clarity of this George Floyd movement is case and point. The spirit of discontent that the masses are feeling today isn't going away. It doesn't have to be about this particular protest, it's all about the inequality that people, in general, are feeling in all aspects of their lives. The great unrest in this country and others is the common thread.

Foolish talk about who has the moral high ground is like the antediluvian crowd debating who was sitting in the highest tree. It wasn't high enough.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:17 pm to
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ABC 33/40 News
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Birmingham Water Works truck struck by bullet while employee was reading meters
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
22511 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:31 pm to
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No genuinely honest person can be on a democratic or republican side. Not if he thinks for himself and is willing to say it truthfully. That's rare and pretty much why you have a lot of difficulty framing your argument with me and trying to finish my thoughts.

You were praising the apparent success of an oppressive regime. Wishing that it would happen over here. I'm not finishing your thoughts, it's what you said. You said people "listen" to the government over there but not in democracies. Why? Because the people are under tight control. That is oppression. It's not like they decided to become that just because of the virus and stop after.


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The spirit of discontent that the masses are feeling today isn't going away. It doesn't have to be about this particular protest, it's all about the inequality that people, in general, are feeling in all aspects of their lives.

And yet you kept on defending China. A country that controls its people to the point of mowing them down if they speak out. I keep bringing it up because you cannot talk about this while also praising a country being that at much grander scale. Then use that mindset to justify mob mentality which creates more unrest and division.

And you keep dodging the question of why you insist on using total deaths instead of per capita.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:41 pm to
Just keep following that heart. You should stay busy running down all those rabbit holes.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:53 pm to
Everything I said, you said or talked about at some point. Except the covid per capita deaths which is being repeatedly ignored.

You are trying to alleviate your cognitive dissonance by denying it exists.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 5:42 pm to
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No genuinely honest person can be on a democratic or republican side.


Well, you're half right.
Posted by FWBFLlaw
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:56 am to
Seriously, I am going to fight someone if they cancel Paw Patrol because of this.

Cancel Paw Patrol

Posted by FWBFLlaw
Member since Aug 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:50 am to
Seriously, they have canceled all kinds of “cop” shows and fired people from shows. The world is already a scary place for kids...let’s not take a show away.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 5:42 pm to
Good, because he absolutely did it.
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