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re: Protests blowing up in Downtown Birmingham
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:24 am to Robot Santa
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:24 am to Robot Santa
Santa, I'm a middle aged white guy and that take of the cop's actions in Minnesota is disgraceful. You cannot justify his actions in any way or lessen their consequences. There was NO CALL for him to have his knee on the guy's throat and to keep it there after he lost consciousness for several minutes! He killed that guy, plain and simple. And the POS had several excessive force complaints against him already. Why the hell was he still a cop? I support PEACEFUL protest and efforts to right racial injustice.
But this rioting has to stop! George has been forgotten and these protests have been manipulated and commandeered by evil on both sides for their own purposes. You have white supremacists and ANTIFA and anarchists using the protests as an excuse for violence to accelerate their goals. You have THUGS of every race, creed, and sex using it as an excuse to rape, plunder and pillage businesses, and to burn things to the ground. WHY?? What is this accomplishing? NOTHING!! It WILL bring a response if it's not stopped, and the violence will escalate!
I stand with my brothers and sisters of all races to stop the senseless violence against people of color. But violence does not change things, it inflames. STOP THE VIOLENCE NOW!
ETA: I support Trump 90% of the time, but you know what? He needs to either STFU or try and bring this country together instead of dividing everyone. frick HIM! Having said that, Trump was not on the ground in Birmingham, FunnyMaine was. Now, he's being a little bitch about his actions since it's biting him in the paycheck. Either own it, or apologize, but don't try this "it wasn't me! shite.
But this rioting has to stop! George has been forgotten and these protests have been manipulated and commandeered by evil on both sides for their own purposes. You have white supremacists and ANTIFA and anarchists using the protests as an excuse for violence to accelerate their goals. You have THUGS of every race, creed, and sex using it as an excuse to rape, plunder and pillage businesses, and to burn things to the ground. WHY?? What is this accomplishing? NOTHING!! It WILL bring a response if it's not stopped, and the violence will escalate!
I stand with my brothers and sisters of all races to stop the senseless violence against people of color. But violence does not change things, it inflames. STOP THE VIOLENCE NOW!
ETA: I support Trump 90% of the time, but you know what? He needs to either STFU or try and bring this country together instead of dividing everyone. frick HIM! Having said that, Trump was not on the ground in Birmingham, FunnyMaine was. Now, he's being a little bitch about his actions since it's biting him in the paycheck. Either own it, or apologize, but don't try this "it wasn't me! shite.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:29 am
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:26 am to Funky Tide 8
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I didn't know that LE was sweeping up reporters in scores.
That's because they're not. And I'm sure he will bring up the CNN reporter who was arrested in Minneapolis a few nights ago as proof that this is happening, while also ignoring the scores of Americans arrested over the course of the last few weeks for exercising their God-given constitutional right to earn a freaking living.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:28 am to pvilleguru
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How do y'all not get that this is much bigger than just one death in Minnesota?
Based on what?
If the cops in Birmingham aren't brutalizing their citizens, why are the citizens of Birmingham destroying their local businesses? Why are they assaulting members of the Birmingham media?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:28 am to phil4bama
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Santa, I'm a middle aged white guy and that take of the cop's actions in Minnesota is disgraceful. You cannot justify his actions in any way or lessen their consequences. There was NO CALL for him to have his knee on the guy's throat and to keep it there after he lost consciousness for several minutes! He killed that guy, plain and simple. And the POS had several excessive force complaints against him already. Why the hell was he still a cop? I support PEACEFUL protest and efforts to right racial injustice.
Cool. I really don't give a frick about your age or racial background. If the cause of death is "heart failure due to a combination of intoxicants and the stress of being arrested" with no evidence of asphyxiation or strangulation, how exactly do you contend that the government is going to be able to prove that he was murdered as a result of a knee on his neck? Because reasons? Emotion plays no part in the law.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:29 am to Funky Tide 8
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LE was sweeping up reporters in scores.
Yeah, I didn't say they were sweeping them up in scores.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:32 am to phil4bama
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There was NO CALL for him to have his knee on the guy's throat and to keep it there after he lost consciousness for several minutes! He killed that guy, plain and simple.
They're going to have an independent autopsy done on the guy too. I agree with what you're saying, but if that autopsy comes to the same conclusion then it would be quite difficult to make the argument that the cop killed him.
I think that's all Robot Santa was saying.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:32 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:32 am to Robot Santa
"The stress of being arrested" was in actuality, strangulation. That's how. Don't give me that bullshite argument about heart failure due to intoxicants, etc. Even if the cop had just gotten up when Floyd said he couldn't breathe, he'd very likely still be alive. Instead, he choked him out. The drugs and health were probably contributing factors, but the choke was the trigger. He killed him.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:33 am to The Spleen
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Yeah, I didn't say they were sweeping them up in scores.
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You think it's just a coincidence there are scores of reports of journalists being arrested and being hit with tear gas, pepper bags, and rubber bullets?
okay, I guess I read this wrong? Apologies.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:34 am to The Spleen
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Yeah, I didn't say they were sweeping them up in scores.
They aren't being swept up at all. They ARE, however, being attacked by rioters and those rioters are definitely NOT Trump supporters.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:34 am to TideSaint
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If the cops in Birmingham aren't brutalizing their citizens, why are the citizens of Birmingham destroying their local businesses? Why are they assaulting members of the Birmingham media?
Because of what happened in Birmingham 60-70 years ago. Duh!
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:34 am to TideSaint
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If the cops in Birmingham aren't brutalizing their citizens
LINK
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Birmingham police are looking to arrest officer Keith Buchanan. He’s accused of sending out a false help call -- reporting shots fired at him during a traffic stop on Shuttlesworth Drive on July 21st.
His arrest would make the seventh arrest of a Birmingham police officer within the last year and a half.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:35 am to phil4bama
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"The stress of being arrested" was in actuality, strangulation.
There was no evidence of strangulation! Holy shite. Can you not fricking read? There is a reason the family wants an independent autopsy done. There is no possibility of getting a murder conviction, or really any kind of conviction, based on the ME's findings. They may not even win a wrongful death lawsuit against the city based on that autopsy report.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:37 am to pvilleguru
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LINK
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Birmingham police are looking to arrest officer Keith Buchanan. He’s accused of sending out a false help call -- reporting shots fired at him during a traffic stop on Shuttlesworth Drive on July 21st.
His arrest would make the seventh arrest of a Birmingham police officer within the last year and a half.
Ok?
Those officers broke the law, and were arrested, fired, and charged with crimes.
out of those 7 incidents, 3 of them would be categorized as "brutal."
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 9:40 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:38 am to Tide or Die87
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You have got to be joking right? You are far smarter than this.
Number of people killed by the police in the United States from 2017 to 2020, by race
We are on pace for the lowest number of people killed by the police in years, yet now people are protesting and looting nationwide because of police brutality?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:39 am to Robot Santa
THe ME's finding was just the initial report, no? Which is why it said "potential intoxicants". If so, I'd hold off any making any final determinations on it.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:40 am to pvilleguru
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Birmingham police are looking to arrest officer Keith Buchanan. He’s accused of sending out a false help call -- reporting shots fired at him during a traffic stop on Shuttlesworth Drive on July 21st.
His arrest would make the seventh arrest of a Birmingham police officer within the last year and a half.
Outrage over the rule of law working makes no sense. There will never be a world where every police officer is perfect in every way. If that's the expectation, then these rioters will never get satisfaction.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:40 am to pvilleguru
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Birmingham police are looking to arrest officer Keith Buchanan. He’s accused of sending out a false help call -- reporting shots fired at him during a traffic stop on Shuttlesworth Drive on July 21st.
His arrest would make the seventh arrest of a Birmingham police officer within the last year and a half.
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Six Birmingham police officers have been arrested in the last 18 months
by Jack Helean Thursday, August 1st 2019
I guess I just slept through the Birmingham riots of August 2019.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:41 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:Are we pretending like they are batting 1.000 on arresting bad cops? Is 6 of "Birmingham's finest" in 18 months not a lot?
Those officers broke the law, and were arrested, fired, and charged with crimes.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:43 am to Robot Santa
I can read. I can also see. Can you really watch that video and say the cop wasn't the main cause of George Floyd's death? Do you think if he was just lying on the ground face down in cuffs, he would have died anyway? And the ME in question works for the same local government that is staring down the barrel of a multi-million dollar wrongful death suit but that didn't factor into his findings.
Strangulation was probably a poor choice of words. From the video, It's probably more likely that the cop was compressing his carotid artery and shutting off blood flow to the brain. And he continued to do so until George was brain dead.
Strangulation was probably a poor choice of words. From the video, It's probably more likely that the cop was compressing his carotid artery and shutting off blood flow to the brain. And he continued to do so until George was brain dead.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:44 am to imjustafatkid
quote:Why? This is one of the few jobs where you can't afford to have "bad apples".
Outrage over the rule of law working makes no sense. There will never be a world where every police officer is perfect in every way. If that's the expectation, then these rioters will never get satisfaction.
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