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OT for people with no skin in the game. Was the hit against Jaxson Smith Njiba legit
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:47 pm
As an Ohio State fan, I commented on Jameson Williams last year here and wished him well. Got thinking that maybe Alabama fans would be neutral arbiters of this question.
The Notre Dame hit against Jaxson Smith Njigba seems borderline to me. Notre Dame player's shoulder went into Njigba's shoulder as he was going down. At the same time, his forearm knocked off Njigba's helmet. If this was your receiver or qb, would you think it was targeting. Even if not targeting, do you think it is a legitimate hit that a clean football player would make?
The hit is at 14:22 of this video. LINK
The Notre Dame hit against Jaxson Smith Njigba seems borderline to me. Notre Dame player's shoulder went into Njigba's shoulder as he was going down. At the same time, his forearm knocked off Njigba's helmet. If this was your receiver or qb, would you think it was targeting. Even if not targeting, do you think it is a legitimate hit that a clean football player would make?
The hit is at 14:22 of this video. LINK
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 9:06 pm
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:59 pm to dailybuck
You didn't post the video.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:03 pm to CCTider
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:12 pm to dailybuck
I think it was a good play myself...
A worse call was the targeting call on the GA Tech db...I thought the Clemaon receiver ducked his head...JMO
A worse call was the targeting call on the GA Tech db...I thought the Clemaon receiver ducked his head...JMO
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:14 pm to dailybuck
Nothing wrong with that hit. He was still fighting for years, and he wasn't targeting the head. He was just trying to knock him out of bounds. JSN probably just needs to keep his chinstrap tighter.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:16 pm to dailybuck
He leads with his shoulder into a player who wasn't down. I can't call that dirty.
Whether it fits into the definition of targeting I can't say because I don't really understand what the frick is and is not targeting. It's becoming the balk of football.
Whether it fits into the definition of targeting I can't say because I don't really understand what the frick is and is not targeting. It's becoming the balk of football.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:26 pm to dailybuck
Ball carrier was not in a defenseless position. He was not clearly down or going down. Defensive player led with the arm/shoulder. Didn't lower the helmet. Didn't launch off of his feet.
Violent play for sure. Back of the neck is an awful place to get hit. But I think it was a reasonable football play and not a penalty. It's a violent sport.
Violent play for sure. Back of the neck is an awful place to get hit. But I think it was a reasonable football play and not a penalty. It's a violent sport.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:29 pm to dailybuck
I’d say the player was defenseless by rule. And was hit within the head and neck area.
I’ve seen a lot less get called. And yes, if that was a Bama WR I’d been raising hell.
I’ve seen a lot less get called. And yes, if that was a Bama WR I’d been raising hell.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:36 pm to dailybuck
Clean hit. Ball carrier wasn’t defenseless and the defender didnt use their head. Additionally there just wasn’t a lot there to hit. I guess he could’ve done nothing but you’re taught to play to the whistle. Glad the Ohio State player wasn’t injured on the play.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:08 pm to dailybuck
Legit.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:12 pm to hwyman108
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I’d say the player was defenseless by rule.
By what rule? The only category of defenseless you could possibly argue is:
“A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.”
But I don’t think there’s any way you could say forward progress had stopped at the time of the hit. In fact it looks to me like that was a broken tackle and he would have continued running down field without the additional hit.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 12:46 am to Crimson77
I saw this play from a different angle before and JSN looked like he had to go down. From the angle shown at 14:22 doesn't look like he is down. So, I can agree it was a legitimate hit although I wonder about forearm knocking off helmet.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 1:12 am to dailybuck
Clean hit.
Not targeting.
He came in to clean up a play. Led with his shoulder. Players head and neck area were drug into him
Big hit, but if anything it is evidence of how targeting rules are positively affecting play. A few years ago he'd be on concussion protocol
Not targeting.
He came in to clean up a play. Led with his shoulder. Players head and neck area were drug into him
Big hit, but if anything it is evidence of how targeting rules are positively affecting play. A few years ago he'd be on concussion protocol
Posted on 9/8/22 at 5:55 am to dailybuck
That’s not targeting and is considered a clean hit. However as a fan, I admit that I’d get fired up and maybe even a little pissed if that happened to my guy. Back when I was growing up they didn’t have targeting. It was straight up knock the shite out of you and ring their bell. It was brutal.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:22 am to dailybuck
Clean hit to me. To me targeting is one of those things that you have zero doubt about when it happens. I also don't see how a player is defenseless when they have they ball in their hands.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:00 am to footstepsfalco
Good hit, might as well become flag football if you can’t lead with the shoulder. I hate it when someone gets ejected for targeting even if they are on the other team. Unless it’s a leaving your feet rocket shot with helmet play. I also think the defenseless player thing is overblown.
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