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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:04 pm to prevatt33b
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:04 pm to prevatt33b
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Serious question, are you guys in the US just now doing stuff like this? Have you not been doing this for nearly a month already?
It is not like Costa Rica is doing any better or started a month ago either.
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The Ministry of Health has issued a decree cancelling events involving large gatherings (such as for concerts, public entertainment, rodeos and similar activities). An employer can also decide whether cancelling an event is convenient for their business and for the safety and health of its employees.
That is definitely not allowed in here in NC. All events are canceled.
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To date, Costa Rica’s government has not issued official guidance, but travelers from “high risk” areas may be subject to additional screening or medical tests.
High risk travel to the US is shut down. And CR did not close their borders for travel until the 16th
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While action is not mandatory, employers should restrict non-essential travel to the countries that have been designated as “high risk.” The employer cannot restrict personal travel, but can deny employees’ vacation requests.
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Neither the Ministry of Health nor the Ministry of Foreign Relations has issued formal travel restrictions. They recommend, however, postponing travel to China, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, Italy, Iran and Singapore.
Business travel unless essential restricted.
Not to mention the ban in the US for entry goes until April 30th currently but yet Costa Rica April 12th
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continuing until April 12, only Costa Rican citizens, residents, those whose residency is in process, minor children of Costa Rican citizens, and foreign diplomats will be able to enter Costa Rica. This restriction applies to land, sea, and air arrivals.
Costa Rica did not declare a state of emergency until March 16th. Bars and clubs were shutdown on the 15th
The Health Ministry there issued this on 8th
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Anyone feeling ill is recommended to stay at home and avoid large-scale gatherings.
We were told here here is not feeling well stay home.
Not to mention aren't yor schools due to reopen April 13th after the Easter celebration? Many states have canceled the school year and others like here At least until May 15th.
You continue to come on here and criticize a country that you decided was not your cup of tea and left. Which is fine and your decision but yet continue to compare the two and promote CR the greater as if you need validation for your choice. And no offense I have seen nothing yet other then your opinion that your beloved country has done anything better then the US to deal with the virus.
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:19 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Folks aren't going to listen anyways. Seen a barber cutting hair in the parking lot where he had set up an open trailer with a barber chair on it on Wares Ferry Rd yesterday.
NC apparently was having the same issue and it was made public that anyone that works in the hair, nail or massage business decides to give private sessions or any session outside of their place of work(which is currently closed) will be fined and lose their license to work.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:22 pm to JustGetItRight
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There aren't enough hours in the day to tell a city of 200,000 that only 10 at a time can go in a 180,000 square foot store to buy groceries.
Here they are preventing entrance at the door.
What they need to do is closed them all down for inside traffic. Every grocery store including Walmart and Target has online options for orders. Order online and go pickup outside. Limit the number of people in the store, protect the employees better, even from the idiots that refuse to follow rules for limits and social distancing, and allows control for hoarding. If you do not have the ability to order online have a designated portion of the parking lot set up for people to pull up hand them their order and wait.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:25 pm to mre
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Probably happened in NC, too. A FL pastor was also arrested for doing the same thing: LINK /
I believe in Charlotte they held service and was fined.
In Durham one of the churches that mainly does huge online services is providing free time for pastors to come in and the platform to deliver their service.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:46 pm to TideWarrior
I'm not really sure what your point was with all of that. Costa Rica doesn't have and never had the outbreak the US had. We had 6 clusters and all were identified. The outbreak is contained and limited at this moment. My wife and I have been working from home for weeks and there's a shelter in place order and has been. Driving is restricted based on the hour. Lots of crap is closed and has been.
Furthermore, in the post you referenced at the beginning, I never mentioned CR. But since you did, yeah we followed the WHO guidelines as well as testing procedures. That's why we got covid-19 before Alabama, but we have 370ish cases and you guys have well over 1,200. That's why I asked why you guys hadn't already done what was needed like the rest of the world. Everything needs to be shut down, especially a place like the US where the virus isn't contained. It's very much contained here, although the super strict restrictions are coming. For the next 3 weeks or so, no one can be on the road between 5pm-5am.
My point is that the stuff that you guys are acting like can't be done, shutting most businesses down, limiting travel, etc. is what needed to be done 3 weeks ago if not a month. And I'm therefore confused as to why you guys are still arguing about it. You're almost a month late - definitely 3 weeks.
For the record, the Costa Rican gov't is a bloated, corrupt embarrassment. The fact that even they handled this issue better than the US is telling.
Also for the record, comparing the country of CR the the state of Alabama is faulty. CR can close its borders. Alabama cannot.
Furthermore, in the post you referenced at the beginning, I never mentioned CR. But since you did, yeah we followed the WHO guidelines as well as testing procedures. That's why we got covid-19 before Alabama, but we have 370ish cases and you guys have well over 1,200. That's why I asked why you guys hadn't already done what was needed like the rest of the world. Everything needs to be shut down, especially a place like the US where the virus isn't contained. It's very much contained here, although the super strict restrictions are coming. For the next 3 weeks or so, no one can be on the road between 5pm-5am.
My point is that the stuff that you guys are acting like can't be done, shutting most businesses down, limiting travel, etc. is what needed to be done 3 weeks ago if not a month. And I'm therefore confused as to why you guys are still arguing about it. You're almost a month late - definitely 3 weeks.
For the record, the Costa Rican gov't is a bloated, corrupt embarrassment. The fact that even they handled this issue better than the US is telling.
Also for the record, comparing the country of CR the the state of Alabama is faulty. CR can close its borders. Alabama cannot.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:54 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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I think this was yesterday or the day before at Atlanta HWY Wal-Mart
Hell, that one's classy compared to the one on Ann St.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:59 pm to TideWarrior
Here in NY, the bigger stores are all vastly different.
Food Emporium does not allow any groups of people shopping together and you wait in line outside until someone exits.
Main large supermarket, Key Foods, has no regulation in place and can be crowded.
Home Depot has no regulations and seems like a petri dish especially with all the people from the Hasidic community, who make the hardcore TD Poli board posters seem gung-ho on respecting distancing protocols.
Food Emporium does not allow any groups of people shopping together and you wait in line outside until someone exits.
Main large supermarket, Key Foods, has no regulation in place and can be crowded.
Home Depot has no regulations and seems like a petri dish especially with all the people from the Hasidic community, who make the hardcore TD Poli board posters seem gung-ho on respecting distancing protocols.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:00 pm to TideWarrior
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And no offense I have seen nothing yet other then your opinion that your beloved country has done anything better then the US to deal with the virus.
No offense taken and none meant to you, but the proof is in the pudding. Almost universally, the countries that 'handled it better' are the ones without crazy numbers of infected. Costa Rica's numbers are super low all things considered and the virus is relatively under control. The US is the current center of the pandemic and it's far from under control. Those facts alone tell you which country has handled it better.
Granted some countries got hit harder in the beginning, but those are in the Eastern Hemisphere. The US had plenty of warning, but your federal gov't made mistake after mistake for weeks. That is simply true. I wish it wasn't, though.
But I care nothing about continuing to compare countries. The right decisions are obvious and harsh to the economy. This is reality. Accept it everybody.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:06 pm to prevatt33b
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CR can close its borders. Alabama cannot.
With what military
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:09 pm to prevatt33b
I believe the US was always going to have the most cases at some point regardless of preparation. Because they have the 3rd largest population in the world while the top 2 are either not testing or lying.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:14 pm to MoarKilometers
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With what military
The Border police.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:34 pm to prevatt33b
All due respect, prevatt, and you are certainly entitled to your opinion but 370 cases in the entire country?!? China would be proud of that report as that’s about as accurate as one of theirs. I call bullshite. Bay County, FL where I am has roughly 180,000 people As of this moment, we have 15 confirmed positives. You wanna know why so low? Because there have been 170 tests completed so far in the entire fricking county! They have far too few tests so they have kept the barriers and qualifications for testing so high, that nobody is getting tested. Do I believe we only have 15 cases? Not for a New York second. I believe that is all we have bothered to identify. Costa Rica is using the same playbook.
With the dumb shite that occurred during Spring Break and that is still going on, I conservatively estimate we have as many cases walking around in this county as Jefferson County that has 5 times our population. A close friend of mine’s neighbor FINALLY got his positive test back yesterday. He’s been waiting on results for 10 days. We don’t know because the truth is, they don’t wanna know because it will shine a harsh light on the failure of government from the local level all the way up to the state, if not federal level.
And that doesn’t even include these assholes down here in Rosemary/30A/Seaside that are down here at their beach house from out of state when they should be REQUIRED to leave and shelter at their primary residence in their home state. These idiots are wandering around like they are on vacation, going to public places just like they do when they come to the beach. My wife is dealing with their dumb asses and being endangered every day because they are too fricking self absorbed to realize they just might be spreading a plague.
With the dumb shite that occurred during Spring Break and that is still going on, I conservatively estimate we have as many cases walking around in this county as Jefferson County that has 5 times our population. A close friend of mine’s neighbor FINALLY got his positive test back yesterday. He’s been waiting on results for 10 days. We don’t know because the truth is, they don’t wanna know because it will shine a harsh light on the failure of government from the local level all the way up to the state, if not federal level.
And that doesn’t even include these assholes down here in Rosemary/30A/Seaside that are down here at their beach house from out of state when they should be REQUIRED to leave and shelter at their primary residence in their home state. These idiots are wandering around like they are on vacation, going to public places just like they do when they come to the beach. My wife is dealing with their dumb asses and being endangered every day because they are too fricking self absorbed to realize they just might be spreading a plague.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:44 pm to TideWarrior
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In Durham one of the churches that mainly does huge online services is providing free time for pastors to come in and the platform to deliver their service.
Man that's really nice of them. Most of us are scrambling trying to figure out how to do virtual services whilst the whole world is also using the internet at the same time. It took me 12 hours to upload my service to Youtube last week. That is not a very viable option going forward for us. We may try Facebook live this week or Semon.net. Would love to have that issue taken off of my plate. I've got plenty to do right now as things stand.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:46 pm to LovetheLord
Where two or three are gathered in His name, brother...
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:50 pm to phil4bama
The population of CR is only 5 million people - similar to Alabama. It's a really small country and the airports have been closed for a long time. Also, half the population lives in the San Jose Metro area. Honestly, it's not that hard to understand how our numbers are low - but the gov't got ahead of it aggressively many weeks ago. It is what it is.
Not every country is getting destroyed. Yours is, but many are not.
Not every country is getting destroyed. Yours is, but many are not.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:53 pm to prevatt33b
How many tests have been conducted?
Again the US has a large population that has a lot of traveling. This thing has probably been here since at least early January. And people here are not disciplined like the Japanese. Quite the opposite
I also think a lot of countries have way more cases than they realize. The vast majority aren’t testing very much.
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Not every country is getting destroyed. Yours is, but many are not.
Again the US has a large population that has a lot of traveling. This thing has probably been here since at least early January. And people here are not disciplined like the Japanese. Quite the opposite
I also think a lot of countries have way more cases than they realize. The vast majority aren’t testing very much.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:59 pm to 1BamaRTR
I can estimate that for you. Unless you’re in a hot spot like NY or LA, the positive rate has been 10% plus or minus about 1.5. So for round, easy numbers, Costa Rica has tested 3700 if they’ve got 370 positives. In a country of 5 million. I don’t think so.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:10 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Again the US has a large population that has a lot of traveling. This thing has probably been here since at least early January. And people here are not disciplined like the Japanese. Quite the opposite
The US was always going to have a hard time, and I've said this many times. I'm also not criticizing any of you, although I do criticize the actions of the federal gov't and president.
I don't want to argue - I'm tired or arguing and am not trying to do it now. I was just confused as to why many here are arguing or fighting against basically closing everything down. It simply has to be done and should have been done weeks ago. That is all.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:20 pm to prevatt33b
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It's a really small country and the airports have been closed for a long time. Also, half the population lives in the San Jose Metro area. Honestly, it's not that hard to understand how our numbers are low - but the gov't got ahead of it aggressively many weeks ago. It is what it is.
CR only started implementing everything around the 15th. I posted the dates for so it is not like you did this many weeks ago including closing down airports for travel has only been two weeks in your country. And even then some of your implementation did not compare to many of the states that had already or at the same time put in stricter restrictions then CR. Yes maybe overall as a country but you make it sound like CR did something amazing when in fact some orders were issued where your country at the same time was only recommending.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:29 pm to TideWarrior
Has prevatt become the most obnoxious a-hole of a poster on this site?
Maybe he always was and I am just now noticing.
Maybe he always was and I am just now noticing.
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