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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)

Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:20 am to
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83897 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:20 am to
Restaurants, salons, gyms can reopen Monday; churches can meet as 10-person limit lifted

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Changes

Lifts the ban on group sizes of 10 or more. Effective May 11, all non-work related gatherings of any size that cannot maintain a six-foot distance between people from different households are prohibited. This covers church gatherings, though Ivey urged houses of worship consult the Alabama Department of Public Health’s “Guidelines for Places of Worship.”

Restaurants, bars and breweries may open with limited table seating and 6 feet between tables

Gyms and other athletic facilities such as fitness centers and commercial gyms, spas, yoga, barre and spin facilities can reopen with social distancing and hygiene measures in place. Access must be limited to 50 percent of normal occupancy and employees must wear masks.

Close-contact providers, such as salons, barber shops, tattoo parlors and nail salons may reopen with social distancing and hygiene in place.

Gathering size limits for the beaches are eliminated as long as people maintain a 6-foot distance between people from other households.




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Not changing

Retail stores must maintain their 50% occupancy rate.

Night clubs

Bowling alleys

Arcades

Concert venues

Theaters, auditoriums and performing arts centers

Bowling alleys

Arcades

Concert venues

Tourist attractions such as museums

Racetracks

Indoor children’s play areas

Adult entertainment venues

Casinos

Bingo halls

Sports that involve interaction with another person closer than 6 feet

Activities that require use of shared sports equipment

Activities on commercial or public playgrounds


This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 11:22 am
Posted by Rolltide2011
Shelby county
Member since Dec 2018
197 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:25 am to
Wait so my gym can open I just can’t go inside and workout ?
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22641 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:40 am to
I'm wondering how restaurants will alter their pricing with 50% capacity. I can see some nicer places jacking up their prices.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41824 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Wait so my gym can open I just can’t go inside and workout ?


Says you can't use shared equipment? How are you supposed to use the gym?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9234 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:53 pm to
The couple of weeks before the lockdown the gym here in Brooklyn was sanitizing between people using equipment.
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3126 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:07 pm to
I think that means something like golf is okay, but football or baseball are out. At least that's how I interpret what they were going for.
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
3334 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:34 pm to
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If this is true, then they are absolutely insane.


I mean, legislators in Alabama are usually pretty corrupt shitbags, in my experience.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13925 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:36 pm to
Fun fact: As of now if you are under retirement age (65) you are twice as likely to die driving to work than you are of COVID-19 in Alabama.
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3126 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:04 pm to
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Fun fact: As of now if you are under retirement age (65) you are twice as likely to die driving to work than you are of COVID-19 in Alabama.

Can't die driving to work if you're working from home.

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23199 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:51 pm to
Can't die driving to work if you're one of 35 million newly unemployed people either.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:17 pm to
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Can't die driving to work if you're working from home.
Which should be encouraged more often even after this pandemic is over for so many reasons.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 8:22 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:07 pm to
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Which should be encouraged more often even after this pandemic is over for so many reasons.


Appears to be a new thing going forward

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Millions of Americans are already working from home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but some workplaces may consider a permanent change. Researchers say homebound employees are logging three hours more per day than before the lockdowns. Among those considering a permanent shift include Nationwide, Mondelez and Barclays.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16161 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 7:38 pm to
Georgia reports the fewest number of hospitalized COVID patients since April 8th

Early for sure, but thus far the reports of Georgia's death appear to have been greatly exaggerated.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7597 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 9:28 pm to
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Which should be encouraged more often even after this pandemic is over for so many reasons.


Give me some of these reasons. Would love to hear them
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 9:29 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Give me some of these reasons. Would love to hear them
As to why people should be able to work from home on occasion if they can still do everything required from them?

-Helps prepare people/companies for emergency situations when they have to work for home or can't physically get to the office, such as after a natural disaster, loss of power, etc. Took us several days just to get everyone fully up and running.
-Workers save money by not having to drive/commute to work.
-Can reduce traffic, leading to fewer crashes, shorter travel times, less congestion, and less wear and tear of the roadway. Saving money for the drivers/commuters as well as saving tax dollars.
-My commute is 15-30 each way. That's 30-60 minutes a week I get back if I work from home 1 day a week. Personally, I've been able to get 30 extra minutes of sleep or a workout in the morning without sacrificing sleep, and my evening workout can get done 30 minutes earlier.
-Can increase time spent with family. As well as potentially save money on childcare/vet fees.
-Can increase overall worker morale/mental health.
-Depending on the workload, workers may actually work faster at home. If I only have x amount of things on my list, I may try to knock them out as quickly as possible so that I can do some things around the house (chores, yardwork, watch tv, read, play xbox, etc) until I get a new task from work.

How many more reasons do you need?

I'd love to hear why working from home more often is a bad idea.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 5:51 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16161 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:22 am to
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I'd love to hear why working from home more often is a bad idea.


Two pretty big ones. First, as was discussed earlier in terms of education, there are advantages in face to face interaction that cannot be replicated in a virtual environment. When it comes to work you often lose a sense of team dedication when you aren’t around each other. Water cooler chitchat really is important.

Second, not everyone has the personal motivation to dedicate themselves to work when they are at home. This is obviously an individual thing but in a lot of cases worker efficiency can go way down.

If you have the personal motivation and you work in a job that doesn’t really need that sense of team then it can be fantastic but it is not for everyone.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:36 am to
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First, as was discussed earlier in terms of education, there are advantages in face to face interaction that cannot be replicated in a virtual environment.
I wasn't really talking about schools.
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When it comes to work you often lose a sense of team dedication when you aren’t around each other.
I didn't say work from home all the time. I said it should be encouraged more often. 1 day a week would be way more often than most people get now.

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Second, not everyone has the personal motivation to dedicate themselves to work when they are at home. This is obviously an individual thing but in a lot of cases worker efficiency can go way down.
It would be treated as a privilege. Not a right or a requirement. If your work suffers, then you obviously lose that privilege.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46214 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:19 am to
I think working from home is going to increase significantly but it won't be because employers want to improve the mental wellbeing of their employees or improving emergency preparedness or anything. Lease obligations are a major expense for most large corporations. If they can reduce their current office space by 25% and shift the costs of maintaining and paying for that office space to their employees they're definitely going to do it. I think this whole situation is illustrating to a lot of employers just how many people they have whose productivity and job performance is not affected by working from home and they're going to take advantage of it going forward.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 8:21 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:30 am to
I read the other day some article that showed working from home that some companies have gotten more work done. The problem though was they were working more hours from home then when at the job. Mostly due to working during commute time. So instead of driving they were already working. But the workers did not seem to mind and many companies are benefiting from it.

Like that article I posted earlier there are companies already heading that direction.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19838 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:31 am to
If I'm a gov't leader and my city/state is flat broke, online education is sounding pretty good to me right now. Rather used that save money on basic infrastructure (roads and water b/c y'know I don't want a Flint situation happening).

There are a lot factors at play and I don't think most Americans realize how dire this situation really is.
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