re: Official Alabama assistant coaching search thread: staff complete Edition

I actually prefer Dunbar in terms of coaching the DL but it seems he either doesn't like to recruit or isn't very good at it, which is a problem.

Don't get me wrong, I like Dunbar too.

So if Scott is coaching DBs, is Golding coaching ILBs?

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So if Scott is coaching DBs, is Golding coaching ILBs?

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If Golding is going to be the DC then probably. The DC usually gets the ILBs.

BOL confirmed Karl Scott has been hired as DB coach LINK

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then why won’t we hire Briles

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Are you really comparing what Freeze did to what Briles did? One was guilty of not promoting an atmosphere of compliance (something that will be done for him at Bama) and for liking escorts. The other was guilty of turning a blind eye to multiple rapes. (nevermind that Saban and Freeze have a pre-existing relationship and he knows Freeze in ways he doesn't know Briles).

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And why did Roy Moore lose?

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I know you think the simple answer is b/c of his past, and that's part of it, but Dems also turned out better than they have in the past, and many undecided voters realized that Jones would hold the office for 2 years and then a Rep would be elected. That was more palatable to many than voting in Moore and his past and his extremist views and watching him likely stay in office for multiple terms. Most liked the odds of putting a better candidate in office in 2 years.

I'm all for Saban having 100% total reign over the football program, but the compliance department raising red flags over this is totally and 100% acceptable and good to hear.

This is how large organizations are supposed to be set up and how they are supposed to work. You have controls and checks and balances. It doesn't mean they can't work through it or even that the guy at the top isn't the final decision maker, but this is their job and they are there to do exactly this.

Freeze deserves red flags. Doesn't mean he should never get a 2nd chance (or not be allowed at Alabama), but his prior actions and standing make him a legitimate compliance risk that absolutely should be brought up and worked through. Not doing so would be a failure of internal controls and the compliance department as a whole. And as far as I'm concerned Alabama should NEVER have another failure that falls at the feet of lax compliance or "look the other way" compliance. I don't care who the coach/AD/President are. We've been down that road and it had better NEVER happen again.

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Imo, it really boils down to one question. Do the positives of hiring Freeze outweigh the negatives?

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I agree. Much like the whole Jonathan Taylor thing (not that they are the same, but a similar approach in terms of positive vs negatives).

I'll be honest, I don't really have a strong opinion. I do think that if both Sankey and our own compliance group are pretty adamantly against it then maybe he should be shelved in an analyst role for the year and then re-visit in 2019.

I don't know what a year as an analyst would do for Sankey or compliance. Lessen the PR hit? Another year off isn't going to eliminate any of the controversy around him though. It isn't going to erase any of his past actions. It's either OK to hire him now, or it's never OK to hire him. There isn't much middle ground there. He wasn't show caused as an assistant by the NCAA, so obviously there is some reason he's being blocked and I'm not sure that reason is going to go away anytime soon.

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don't know what a year as an analyst would do for Sankey or compliance. Lessen the PR hit? Another year off isn't going to eliminate any of the controversy around him though. It isn't going to erase any of his past actions. It's either OK to hire him now, or it's never OK to hire him. There isn't much middle ground there. He wasn't show caused as an assistant by the NCAA, so obviously there is some reason he's being blocked and I'm not sure that reason is going to go away anytime soon.

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I think the PR hit would be the main thing for the SEC. For compliance, it would be a year in house for them to use to evaluate as well as a year to let the heat simmer. And, it would probably be looked at as an informal penalty from the SEC against Freeze while he sits in the Saban Rehab Center.

Either way, it's going to be a hot button issue for the near future within the SEC. Most head coaches who are involved in this sort of thing don't immediately go back to being full on recruiting college assistants very soon.

- Pete Carroll hasn't been back
- Gary Barnett hasn't been back
- Mike DuBose didn't return to D1 coaching until 10 years later
- Jim Tressel hasn't been back in a coaching capacity
- Charley Pell never coached again
- Billy Brewer never coached again
- Danny Ford was out of CFB for 4 years before going to Arkansas
- Jackie Sherrill was out of CFB for 3 years before going to State, then never coached again after the issues at State
- Tom Holmoe (Cal) never coached again
- Hal Mumme was out of CFB for 3 years before getting jobs at SELU and NMSU


So, there really isn't much precedent for a head coach involved in the level of penalties Ole Miss got jumping back into coaching at the highest level that quickly.

do we know our compliance dept is against it? Or did someone just make a post that said it might be our compliance dept that is against it.