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Offensive Identity
Posted on 12/8/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 11:59 am
What is ours?
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:02 pm to Woodyjr42
Train our offensive line and running backs to be turnstiles and our qb to panic and fall down or turn the ball over
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:12 pm to Woodyjr42
How can you create an identity when you refuse to throw deep and every team stuffs the middle to limit what you can do?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:22 pm to Woodyjr42
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Offensive Identity
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What is ours?
Finesse, misdirection runs, hyper aggressive passing attack that will go vertical to a fault.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:36 pm to Woodyjr42
Peak Deboer offense is a stunt and pull run game with a heavy vertical pass attack.
The reason we suck so much now is a number of factors.
- our o-line coach is arse
- our personnel does not mesh well; we have a bunch of road grater behemoths mixed with lateral mover athletes on the OL and it just doesn’t work
- Jamarcus Sheppard was not a good WR coach. Good motivational speaker but our WRs suck arse outside of Germie and occasionally Horton.
- Ty Simpson is good but not great. I think he’s concussed or skiddish from a hit he received earlier in the year that made him gun shy ever since.
Overall it’s a number of factors. We need some absolute warlords at WR and OL coach to teach these young men how to ball properly. That is priority #1 this offseason.
The reason we suck so much now is a number of factors.
- our o-line coach is arse
- our personnel does not mesh well; we have a bunch of road grater behemoths mixed with lateral mover athletes on the OL and it just doesn’t work
- Jamarcus Sheppard was not a good WR coach. Good motivational speaker but our WRs suck arse outside of Germie and occasionally Horton.
- Ty Simpson is good but not great. I think he’s concussed or skiddish from a hit he received earlier in the year that made him gun shy ever since.
Overall it’s a number of factors. We need some absolute warlords at WR and OL coach to teach these young men how to ball properly. That is priority #1 this offseason.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:52 pm to Vulcan Materials
Reporter..."what do you think of your team's execution?"
John McKay " I'm in favor of it"
John McKay " I'm in favor of it"
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:55 pm to Vulcan Materials
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- Ty Simpson is good but not great. I think he’s concussed or skiddish from a hit he received earlier in the year that made him gun shy ever since.
Yeah, whatever the injury situation, he's definitely gotten skittish. Speculating here, but he also seems to be pressing - as in, overwhelming himself looking for things to go perfectly for our plays to be successful / for us to win.
Combine that with him having an extremely limited comfort zone with his target areas that results in him missing reads and holding for too long, him just not being great about going through his progressions in general (you can they've been trying to drill down on this with him, and he showed improvement for a while, but he seems to be going in reverse now), and him having touch and accuracy issues (even in his preferred target zones lately), and it's hard to get to what you have to assume our staff wants our identity to be. And that's on top of issues in other units, like everyone has noted lol.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:00 pm to Vulcan Materials
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Peak Deboer offense is a stunt and pull run game with a heavy vertical pass attack.
I read that DeBoer at UW with Grubb had the most effective deep ball offense in recent CFB history per PFF.
Its not that they dont want to throw deep, its that we cant connect due to QB issues right now and we arent that great at protecting that long either.
Gonna say it again... we still have not seen the full CKD / Grubb offense at Bama because defenses are only having to cover a compressed field due to QB limitations.
But its still an improvement over last year where our QB couldnt even run 20% of what they wanted to do.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:05 pm to Woodyjr42
Run
Pass
Sack/ throw away to avoid sack (possible INT or fumble due to sack)
Punt
Pass
Sack/ throw away to avoid sack (possible INT or fumble due to sack)
Punt
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:12 pm to Vulcan Materials
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Peak Deboer offense is a stunt and pull run game with a heavy vertical pass attack. The reason we suck so much now is a number of factors. - our o-line coach is arse - our personnel does not mesh well; we have a bunch of road grater behemoths mixed with lateral mover athletes on the OL and it just doesn’t work - Jamarcus Sheppard was not a good WR coach. Good motivational speaker but our WRs suck arse outside of Germie and occasionally Horton. - Ty Simpson is good but not great. I think he’s concussed or skiddish from a hit he received earlier in the year that made him gun shy ever since. Overall it’s a number of factors. We need some absolute warlords at WR and OL coach to teach these young men how to ball properly. That is priority #1 this offseason.
This plus infinity …
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:17 pm to tide06
DeBoer got a lot to prove in 2026 because the "his players" coupled with "we haven't seen the real offense yet" talk starts running out of ammo when almost every player on the field was hand picked and/or developed by the staff.
DeBoer has turned around his offenses quickly at every stop as a HC and OC. The fact it has been very disjointed and regressed dramatically within a season each year at Alabama does not bode well. He didn't have a nut flush at any of these other stops. He was inheriting players on the roster and pulling someone else's development work out of the portal.
It is encouraging that some of our best offensive performers have been players who followed him to Tuscaloosa. It lends some credence to the "his players" argument, however a comprehensive program knows how to make it work with the guys they inherit. It makes me wonder about the player development. We're two years in and still cannot consistent find a tailback handoff game that is passable for championship level football.
Joe Pendry and Burton Burns took Bucket Step Bob and Sparky Woods subpar player development and turned it into an elite running attack in by year two...and they were doing it by leaning on guys who weren't doing shite under Shula.
I don't think we're getting the most out of our players. Hell, the number of flabby OL carrying obviously bad weight when we're actively pursuing a zone and counter action heavy offensive approach suggests off-season conditioning isn't razor focused like it use to be. Seems like you could enhance conditioning and lateral movement by melting off some fat in the midsection of these men.
DeBoer has turned around his offenses quickly at every stop as a HC and OC. The fact it has been very disjointed and regressed dramatically within a season each year at Alabama does not bode well. He didn't have a nut flush at any of these other stops. He was inheriting players on the roster and pulling someone else's development work out of the portal.
It is encouraging that some of our best offensive performers have been players who followed him to Tuscaloosa. It lends some credence to the "his players" argument, however a comprehensive program knows how to make it work with the guys they inherit. It makes me wonder about the player development. We're two years in and still cannot consistent find a tailback handoff game that is passable for championship level football.
Joe Pendry and Burton Burns took Bucket Step Bob and Sparky Woods subpar player development and turned it into an elite running attack in by year two...and they were doing it by leaning on guys who weren't doing shite under Shula.
I don't think we're getting the most out of our players. Hell, the number of flabby OL carrying obviously bad weight when we're actively pursuing a zone and counter action heavy offensive approach suggests off-season conditioning isn't razor focused like it use to be. Seems like you could enhance conditioning and lateral movement by melting off some fat in the midsection of these men.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:23 pm to tide06
If this famed offense requires a top 10 NFL drafted QB for Bama to have great success, then we're in big trouble.
Hell, Kirby and Glenn had their DB's running to the spots where our receivers we're going (for 12 games).
SOS for 12 games and other teams know the plan.
There is a reason Grubb was fired after one year in the show.
Hell, Kirby and Glenn had their DB's running to the spots where our receivers we're going (for 12 games).
SOS for 12 games and other teams know the plan.
There is a reason Grubb was fired after one year in the show.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:42 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Why can’t we just go out and get elite quarterbacks? Is there some reason we can’t? Or shouldn’t?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:52 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Why can’t we just go out and get elite quarterbacks? Is there some reason we can’t? Or shouldn’t?
Bama has an elite QB. He's not playing like it, but he's really good when he's playing like he's capable.
QB is a crapshoot. The Heisman winner will be a guy who played at Cal and then went to Indiana. If it was obvious he was going to be a stud then he wouldn't have ended up at Indiana.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:55 pm to Woodyjr42
In every post, I will continue to say something like: our identity is that we can’t run the freaking ball. It makes preparing a defense against Alabama so simple. The offensive line, running backs and play calling is arse. Every aspect of this offense has regressed.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:13 pm to Broken Coyote
We have got to run the ball more effectively, period, but it’s like everyone who wants to go back to the Stallings/Moore era has come out of the woodwork.
And if a play that’s called is wide open, there for a touchdown, and it fails because it is simply not executed properly, was it a bad play call?
And if a play that’s called is wide open, there for a touchdown, and it fails because it is simply not executed properly, was it a bad play call?
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:20 pm to InkStainedWretch
The offense lost it's wallet, needs to get a fake ID before next Friday.
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