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re: Off-Topic: Governor’s Race

Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:26 pm to
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Mo Brooks is by far the best candidate in the Senate race


Mo is an idiot.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:44 pm to
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Mo is an idiot.


You are free to believe this, but my statement would still be true. He hasn't really sunk anything into campaigning yet and is still polling well against the field. If he actually starts putting effort into the race I believe it will be his to lose. If he does that, then I would say he has played this smart so far by saving his campaign funds for when he actually needs them.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
6315 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:50 pm to
I wasn't sure until he opened his mouth.
Posted by In Hsv
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2011
244 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:05 pm to
As is every candidate running.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18309 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:16 pm to
Can't really complain if you're waiting for someone else to run.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:32 pm to
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I wasn't sure until he opened his mouth.


I'd ask you to quantify exactly what it is you think he's wrong about, but I doubt it would be a productive exchange so feel free to continue your trolling.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86470 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:41 pm to
Slight hijack- I'm a relatively new member of the state, is there a website I can get a quick hitter rundown on all these people being mentioned in the thread so I can research what they're all about?
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:57 pm to
Mo has name recognition. most believe there will be a runoff and whichever of Britt or the POW will get most of the others vote and take it. The other thing is that Britt has a lot more money than Mo to spend, and she is the one fighting name recognition.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20763 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 4:17 pm to
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You are absolutely correct here. I am in shock when I talk to people who still support her as governor. It really makes no sense.


I think there are a lot of simps out there that like the idea of her and the fact that she has cleared the very low bar of not getting thrown out of office.

Nobody is going crawl over glass to vote for or against her. Look at the way this thread went. People just have very low expectations for the Governor’s office. People just migrated towards talking about the Senate race. Ivey’s team loves that because it means nobody actually talks about her record.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 4:38 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 4:20 pm to
I'm not really aware of one. The 2022 Senate election page on Wikipedia lists out endorsements for each candidate, but as far as stances I think you'd need to go to their individual websites or find youtube videos of them speaking in order to get the gist of it.

LINK

Katie Britt seems to be the choice of what I would consider to be the "establishment" Republicans, with endorsements from people like Richard Shelby (she worked for him) and Lindsey Graham, as well as a bunch of Alabama lobbying groups. There is a lot of money behind her campaign, so you are definitely going to see her face on a billboard and her ads on TV. Everything about her just reeks of everything that is wrong with DC imo, but apparently that's what some people are looking for.

Mike Durant appears to have the backing of "centrist" PACs that want more Senators similar to Mitt Romney or John McCain or Joe Manchin types. He is a hero of the "black hawk down" incident who runs an engineering services company in Huntsville making military money. Michael Flynn has endorsed him, as have two former Senate candidates who have since dropped out of the race (Jessica Taylor and Mike Dunn). Here's an article about the group giving him money. The money they've given his campaign is mentioned in the article.

Mo Brooks has the endorsement of Trump, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and the Senate Conservatives Fund, and is definitely the least "establishment" of the group. He was one of only two Alabama Republicans to support Trump removing troops from Syria and has voted with Joe Biden's stated position only 6% of the time (per FiveThirtyEight).

We definitely have 3 seemingly different styled Republicans running in this race: Katie the establishment R, Mo the conservative R, and Durant the "moderate" military man.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Mo has name recognition. most believe there will be a runoff and whichever of Britt or the POW will get most of the others vote and take it. The other thing is that Britt has a lot more money than Mo to spend, and she is the one fighting name recognition.


She was the president and CEO of the Business Council of Alabama. I don't think she's fighting name recognition in this state by any stretch of the imagination. Mo definitely has more of a national brand, but I'm not sure that matters when no one outside of Alabama will be voting for this.

She's still listed as the BCA's president and CEO according to this LINK on their website, which also mentions she was on MeeMaw's "Coronavirus Task Force." If I needed any more reason not to vote for her, there it is...
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 4:27 pm to
There really is no difference in all the R candidates’ stances/views. Lower taxes, less regulation on businesses, pro-life, blah, blah, blah. This race really comes down to how tight of a grip Trump still has on the Republican Party. Brooks has staked out his claim as the most ardent Trump supporter. Britt has been more tepid, but has espoused some things Trump has supported. Durant is a bit of a long shot right now, so not worth discussing.

Britt is likely going to get a considerable amount of crossover voters in the primary since the D’s don’t really have a candidate to run. Brooks isn’t as toxic as Moore, but not very far off.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 4:31 pm to
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There really is no difference in all the R candidates’ stances/views.


Stated views, sure, but I think we can all figure out how they will vote in the Senate based on the people who support them.

The Business Council of Alabama opposed the anti-vaccine mandate bills being pushed by Alabama's state government while Katie Britt was president and CEO. I think this tells us exactly what Katie Britt thinks about personal freedom and should be an absolute warning sign to any supposed "conservatives" in this state. LINK Honestly it should be a warning sign to liberals too. This lady will absolutely sell out what is probably her own personal feelings on an issue if it is in the interest of big business.

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Brooks isn’t as toxic as Moore, but not very far off.


This might as well be an endorsement in my view. It's clear our state's Republicans made a mistake by staying home and letting Jones take office, instead of voting for Moore, based on nothing more than lies. Gave the national Dems the license to believe they could pull the same thing with a Supreme Court nominee.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 4:37 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 4:55 pm to
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Britt is likely going to get a considerable amount of crossover voters in the primary since the D’s don’t really have a candidate to run.


Now that I think about it, why would Ds vote for this candidate if there is "no difference in all of the R candidates' stances/views?" Wouldn't every candidate be the same to you in this scenario?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 4:59 pm to
Because she won’t embarrass the state like Mo constantly does. Almost every traditional dem voter I know in Birmingham is voting for her in the primary.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 5:08 pm to
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Because she won’t embarrass the state like Mo constantly does.


Never once been embarrassed by Mo.

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Almost every traditional dem voter I know in Birmingham is voting for her in the primary.



OK. No clue why any Republican would see this and think, "man, that's a candidate I should support!"

ETA: I mean seriously, Terri Sewell won't even meet with unvaccinated constituents in her office, but Mo is the embarrassment? Some of y'all got some really messed up priorities for your elected officials. LINK
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 5:14 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 5:17 pm to
LINK

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Rep. Terri Sewell and Rep. Mo Brooks were the only U.S. House members from Alabama to vote in favor of legislation aimed at ending the practice of forced arbitration in cases of sexual assault and harassment.


How do you think big business Katie Britt would have voted on this issue?
Posted by Bolivar Shagnasty
Your mothers corner
Member since Aug 2017
654 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Katie Britt seems to be the choice of what I would consider to be the "establishment" Republicans, with endorsements from people like Richard Shelby (she worked for him) and Lindsey Graham, as well as a bunch of Alabama lobbying groups. There is a lot of money behind her campaign, so you are definitely going to see her face on a billboard and her ads on TV. Everything about her just reeks of everything that is wrong with DC imo, but apparently that's what some people are looking for.

Mike Durant appears to have the backing of "centrist" PACs that want more Senators similar to Mitt Romney or John McCain or Joe Manchin types. He is a hero of the "black hawk down" incident who runs an engineering services company in Huntsville making military money. Michael Flynn has endorsed him, as have two former Senate candidates who have since dropped out of the race (Jessica Taylor and Mike Dunn). Here's an article about the group giving him money. The money they've given his campaign is mentioned in the article.

Mo Brooks has the endorsement of Trump, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and the Senate Conservatives Fund, and is definitely the least "establishment" of the group. He was one of only two Alabama Republicans to support Trump removing troops from Syria and has voted with Joe Biden's stated position only 6% of the time (per FiveThirtyEight).


I think you hit the nail on the head. I was thinking Durant was gonna get my vote early on, but with the "PAC" and the organizations ideal candidate being a "centrist" from a political stand point........ain't now way!!!

The Dem's idea of centrist and a non-RINO republican's view are daylight and dark as far as what is "middle" ground.

I too think Britt is more of the same. She is Shelby in a skirt.

I'm not a huge Mo fan, but he is definitely the lessor of 3 evils.

I hope and pray to the 7 pound 6 ounce baby Jesus that someone worth voting for will challenge MeMaw.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 6:12 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20763 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 6:47 pm to
Would love to see 1/2 the energy everyone is putting into this Senate race directed towards the Governor’s race.

The sad thing is that this is all shaping up for Ainsworth to take all of that establishment money from Ivey and run with little opposition in 2026.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50466 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 7:00 pm to
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The sad thing is that this is all shaping up for Ainsworth to take all of that establishment money from Ivey and run with little opposition in 2026.



At least he would have been better than Ivey. He was coming out publicly against her mask mandate immediately.

LINK

Honestly I don't know much about him outside of that. What's your issues with him?
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