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re: Negativity towards Tua

Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:04 pm to
I didn’t put him down. He was a good quarterback. He’s just behind 3 others. Don’t put down Golding anymore either. No one. Bunch of freaking patsies.
Posted by KareemAbdul
Member since Dec 2012
1728 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:07 pm to
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I didn’t put him down. He was a good quarterback. He’s just behind 3 others. Don’t put down Golding anymore either. No one. Bunch of freaking patsies.


Golding is our current DC.

What you do is say "Najee Harris is a great back and Damien Harris was overrated trash."

Hostility in your heart.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20473 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:10 pm to


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Please do so the tua lovers can see it with their own eyes.




It's way too early to say anything like that.

Mac is having a great season, but nothing Tua did was ever as shitty as scoring 14 points for the other team and single-handedly losing the game. But hey, he puts up lots of yards.

So sure, lets evaluate those first 4 starts. Especially the TD/Int ratio and W-L record.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 5:18 pm
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:15 pm to
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Name me a game against a top 20 defense,other than uga 2017, where he won the game for us.

2018 Mississippi State
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:27 pm to
Ha I don’t give a shite what you think and you won’t control anyone’s opinion on here because it isn’t yours. I’ll say what I say and if you don’t like it scroll past it. You aren’t running anything here.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:30 pm to
So you don't want to provide support for your statement that Damien is light years better than Najee?

Damien did average more yards per carry and seems to have more breakaway speed in his last year. Personally I think they are pretty similar quality backs, Najee has been awesome in pass blocking thus far this year but that could be recency bias. I can't recall if Damien excelled in that part of the game or not.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 6:33 pm
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:36 pm to
Two 1000+ yard season with Bo Scar running behind him. Blocking ability on film was much better. As a sophomore Damien was able to do what Najee could not. Najee is good. He is not Mark, King Henry, or D Harris.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:42 pm to
I don't put either Harris on the same level of Ingram or Henry personally, they are on a tier that I felt like neither Harris has reached.

We have a different style offense, so it is hard to compare - but I am just not sure if they can completely take over a game and wreck a defense like Ingram and Henry. Both are very good, just not quite at that next echelon IMO.
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:48 pm to
Henry was a freaking stud no doubt. A huge man when given a seam was deceptively quick. Durable beyond belief. Got STRONGER with more carries.

Ingram alone is what won us the SC game. He started taking direct snaps. He just knew when it had to be him and carry a team.

Mad respect to both.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6835 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:54 pm to
Why are you guys arguing over personal preferences?
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:58 pm to
Been a slow day at the firehouse. ??
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:01 pm to
2019 CFP NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

Tua: 58.8 QBR
22/34 295 yards, 2 TD/2 int
One interception was pick 6 and the second caused clemson to immediately score.

2018 SEC championship.
Tua: 29.2 QBR
10/25 or 40%
164 Yds
1 TD/2 INT
JALEN: 99.4 QBR
82 YDS
1 TD/ 0 INT

2019 LSU
QBR: 72.8
21/40 418 YDS
4 TDS/1 INT/ 1 unbelievable fumble

When it mattered against a good defense he crumbled. That is how you differentiate between a good qb and a great one. The 2018 and 2019 schedules were some of the easiest Alabama has ever had.


This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:04 am
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:04 pm to
That’s gonna hurt the Tua crowd. Yikes. Prepare for more crying.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:06 pm to
Personally I don't think we did Tua any favors with our offensive gameplan. It was like our offense was out playing with a new toy, but we didn't work on being balanced - this may have had something to do with the offensive line as well - but that is why I say I like the current offense much more than the offense under Tua. If we had worked on having a balanced offense cwith Tua, who knows what we could have looked like.

Tua was also a victim of his own success - he torched bad defenses so much that he didn't realize he needed to change his game up when the defense can compete. At least that is my take on it. The poor Alabama defense, offensive system and injuries all combine to make his career here tough to fully grasp.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 7:07 pm
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:33 pm to
You missed it by a hair
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7131 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:42 pm to
I left hours ago and you were bitching about an ex Alabama qb, come back hours later and you're still bitching about an ex Alabama qb.

Do you live in Costa Rica?
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:46 pm to
His hook is shiny, but plenty keep biting.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 7:47 pm
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 7:53 pm to
Hahahahaha it is shiny. I’ve caught a lot fish today. I do live in Costa Rica. You fellas have a good evening. I take it all back. Tua is probably the best quarterback we’ve ever had.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17876 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

I do live in Costa Rica.

I was thinking prevatt33's less bloviating, half wit brother... apparently just prevatt.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
1771 posts
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:58 pm to
>One interception was pick 6 and the second caused clemson to immediately score.

Only one of those picks on Tua.

The first, was a designed play jumped by the corner in disguised coverage. It was a quick throw on a blitz and the corner jumped the route. That's on Tua. LINK

The second was disguised coverage, and brilliantly at that, to bait a long thrown similar to Georgia. I believe Dabo even stated in the postgame that was the throw they were looking for.

I'm not going to view 22/34 2TD, 2Int anywhere close to bad in that game considering the redzone play calling. He was a competent coordinator from having five touchdowns instead of 2. That was moreso getting outcoached and they whipped Locksley all day.

I'm also curious what the qualifier is for "Top 30 defense", because Auburn and LSU were both top 30 in 2018 and he went 6 total TD's 0 ints on the former. His line would be 12-6 with 60%+ completion. If it's volume that's an incredibly bunk qualifier.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 9:02 pm
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