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Posted on 12/12/22 at 10:27 pm to Bham Bammer
Posted on 12/12/22 at 10:27 pm to Bham Bammer
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Is he related to Christian Leary?
It’s possible but not probable.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:08 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Not sure if mentioned but multiple 4-stars entered the portal yesterday:
Junior Angilau - Texas
George Rooks - Michigan
Emory Jones - Arizona State
Junior Angilau - Texas
George Rooks - Michigan
Emory Jones - Arizona State
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:59 pm to WeWillFly
Transfers will do to signing day what the playoffs did to the bowl games. Why invest in recruiting HS kids with no college film? Just shop from the transfers with your available money pool. I’m not liking this trend and spent more time fishing this year during the Fall than ever. My interest and participation in CFB is only going to continue to decline.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 1:06 pm to Bamafig
I think with our opt opts(if we have any) and transfers Saban is going to use the bowl game to determine what route to go with the transfer portal. The Sugar Bowl is going to be a tryout for those still on the team that have been waiting their turn.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:10 pm to TideWarrior
These aren't official yet, but lot of talk these are going to happen.
J.Cohen to Miami
A.Kight to Auburn
T.Brockermeyer to TCU
A.Anderson to LSU
J.Earle to TCU
J.Cohen to Miami
A.Kight to Auburn
T.Brockermeyer to TCU
A.Anderson to LSU
J.Earle to TCU
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:20 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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A.Kight to Auburn
He should stay given Steen is leaving.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:26 pm to TideSaint
Wes Neighbors said on his radio show that Kight soured on the coaching staff when they brought in Tyler Steen.
So naturally, he's gonna go do the same thing to another player at another school
So naturally, he's gonna go do the same thing to another player at another school
Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:47 pm to TideSaint
Let them go...
Our freshman coming in are better.
Our freshman coming in are better.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:24 pm to Bamafig
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Transfers will do to signing day what the playoffs did to the bowl games. Why invest in recruiting HS kids with no college film? Just shop from the transfers with your available money pool. I’m not liking this trend and spent more time fishing this year during the Fall than ever. My interest and participation in CFB is only going to continue to decline.
Where do you like to fish, Fig?
Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:47 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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A.Anderson to LSU
Least shocking thing I've ever read
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:18 am to bamabenny
Used to once a player committed you could count on them being around boom or bust. Now you basically have to keep recruiting them the entire time on campus and upping their “offer” $$ if they are a Boom. Loyalty to school/pride in university is all but forgotten
and replaced with getting the most $$ possible.
I do not blame the kids trying to literally create some albeit “short term” value for themselves. The 5 * market for new recruits however is much riskier now because a Bust is basically a big hit against your “cap” space. College football it setting up more like money ball now. Take some cheap 4 * kids and throw the bank at proven 1-2 year starters for a one year “free angency” push to the natty. Some schools may even save up for 5+ years and just go all in once or twice a decade to get their shot.
and replaced with getting the most $$ possible.
I do not blame the kids trying to literally create some albeit “short term” value for themselves. The 5 * market for new recruits however is much riskier now because a Bust is basically a big hit against your “cap” space. College football it setting up more like money ball now. Take some cheap 4 * kids and throw the bank at proven 1-2 year starters for a one year “free angency” push to the natty. Some schools may even save up for 5+ years and just go all in once or twice a decade to get their shot.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 6:20 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:46 am to LucedaleTider
It has been a broken system for a while now that has favored only one side. Coaches have had the liberty to come and go as they please. They are getting paid millions of dollars and the universities as well for the actions of these players on the field. Players if it did not work out were left sitting on the bench to wonder whether it was them not meeting expectations or being evaluated wrong by the staff as not a fit for the system. Transferring penalized them and if they wanted to stay many times they were forced into a medical scholarship or pushed out. Lets not pretend these things did not happen.
Transfer portal and NIL coming out basically at the same time has completely shifted to the players advantage. They control the overall process now and are the ones dictating the terms. Will it eventually balance itself out yes but it has and will continue to change the college landscape.
During the recruiting cycle coming out of HS these players are promised the world and now can do something about it if those promises are not met, good or bad. The real question is these coaches that have been around the game for so long will they finally step away. This is not about changing offenses or style of play this is a change in the system that will never go back to what we know it.
Transfer portal and NIL coming out basically at the same time has completely shifted to the players advantage. They control the overall process now and are the ones dictating the terms. Will it eventually balance itself out yes but it has and will continue to change the college landscape.
During the recruiting cycle coming out of HS these players are promised the world and now can do something about it if those promises are not met, good or bad. The real question is these coaches that have been around the game for so long will they finally step away. This is not about changing offenses or style of play this is a change in the system that will never go back to what we know it.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:15 am to TideWarrior
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It has been a broken system for a while now that has favored only one side. Coaches have had the liberty to come and go as they please. They are getting paid millions of dollars and the universities as well for the actions of these players on the field. Players if it did not work out were left sitting on the bench to wonder whether it was them not meeting expectations or being evaluated wrong by the staff as not a fit for the system. Transferring penalized them and if they wanted to stay many times they were forced into a medical scholarship or pushed out. Lets not pretend these things did not happen.
Of course, this happened, but the solution shouldn't be total chaos, which is what we have no. Basically, I think the NCAA should establish some controls like the following:
Players have 5 years of eligibility. No more counting games to preserve a RS. Great players are 3 and done, but this would allow players to develop and transfer and still have time to learn the new system at another school.
Players cannot transfer without penalty for 2 years unless there is a head coaching change.
After 2 years they can do whatever they want.
JMHO.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:27 am to MagillaGuerilla
Kind of doubt Kight was ever really going to play. I see Latham moving over to LT next season and they'll roll a younger guy into RT (I'm betting on Booker).
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:45 am to Ten Bears
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Of course, this happened, but the solution shouldn't be total chaos, which is what we have no.
But the chaos occurred because the universities, the programs, coaches, and the NCAA was content with the current status quo. At some point you either address it, which in this case players side, or this is what happens. One side had the power and the other felt they were abusing it. Almost like a revolution in a sense so changed was forced without actually finding a medium. These issues have been issues for years and were continued to be overlooked. Not sure what people think was going to happen.
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Basically, I think the NCAA should establish some controls like the following:
Until NIL has some regulation it will not matter. Money will determine the path. Without the current state of the transfer portal many programs would struggle. We all know that HS kids are using recruiting to get NIL deals. Which should not be allowed. With that happening the portal is at least giving the coaches a way to get players after they miss on a HS kid.
The NCAA is just sitting back and waiting. Because until all the conferences come together and force some kind of legislation that will allow the NCAA and conferences to regulate NIL it will not matter.
In the end it should be rules in place like a player can not make NIL deals until after year 1 or year 2 if they red shirt. That would eliminate HS recruits being offered NIL to sign.
Next a player can not transfer until after 2 years at a program. No different than a player going to JUCO and back. In regards to NIL they can not set up another NIL deal at the new program until they been there for 1 year. That would prevent tampering. It would also prevent players jumping in the portal to test the waters for NIL deals.
Also only allow a player to transfer once without penalty after that sit out a year.
I am not sure if their is a cap outside of the 85 max rule but I would maybe limit the number of transfers a school can add each year. That would limit the number of opportunities for players looking at the portal.
I would go a step farther as well for NIL if allowed. NIL contracts need to made through a pre-approved agent like I believe the NFL requires. And all NIL money is put into a trust until 4 years removed from HS, unless entering the draft. That way they have money when they leave and it will not be a distraction while in.
Yes I understand these things can not legally happen and will be interested going forward how the courts rule. And yes I understand to some who do not, that SCOTUS has yet to rule on NIL. So we do not know where or how this will all end up. The only thing we know is that the game as we know it will no longer be the same.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:41 pm to TideWarrior
None of our players in the portal bother me at all, except for Anderson/LSU. Really wish he'd stay and try to develop some chemistry with our new QB. All the others are leaving because they got passed up by younger talent. Just opens a spot for us to pursue a better player. Kight for instance, absolutely sucked all spring (which is why we brought Steen in.) The thought of him at Auburn trying to block Dallas Turner next season almost makes me giddy.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:44 pm to tider04
If it makes you feel better, from what more informed people have said, it kinda sounds like AA never fully bought in. If that is true, he's addition by subtraction. We need a culture/attitude overhaul.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:50 pm to LucedaleTider
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Take some cheap 4 * kids and throw the bank at proven 1-2 year starters for a one year “free angency” push to the natty.
The problem with that approach is as soon as you develop the cheap 4* kid, he will become more valuable, and transfer out for NIL money elsewhere. Recruiting has always included a certain number of "busts". Every once in awhile you found some under rated prospects that sort of made up for the "busts". Now even those aren't necessarily going to be there. Plus you spend time and money coaching a player up, to have him bail to a rival. It sucks.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:21 pm to TideWarrior
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Leary to UCF
Might be but I doubt it, there's talk of him going to Notre Dame
He and his family aren't in a rush and they shouldn't be
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