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re: Milroe “expected” to turn pro
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:05 pm to BigFolks6347
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:05 pm to BigFolks6347
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Milroe may actually be a better pro than college football player. The NFL shows us every week that quarterbacks who extend plays are what they want. He may never be the quarterback that goes through progressions and stands in the pocket as a field general. Josh Allen is called great and he rarely delivers strikes from the pocket. The game has changed from statues at quarterback. Edge rushers are too fast so they value mobile guys more.
There aren't many Josh Allens out there. Milroe has never shown the ability to be shifty in the pocket and escape pressure like the QB's you're talking about.
That being said, I never thought Jalen Hurts would be anything close to the QB he's grown into. Maybe if Milroe lands in the right situation, he could have a nice career. Wish the best for him... as long as it's not in a Bama uni any longer.
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:08 pm to YStar
quote:On the field? They’re few and far between. When he’s on, he’s good. When he’s not, the entire team suffers.
Milroe has a lot of good qualities
quote:This is an almost contradictory statement to your last one quoted above. If he truly had “good qualities,” his issues wouldn’t be haunting.
His issues though are what would haunt us. If he was able to fix those issues even with this inconsistently coached team we would win every game just from him putting on the pads.
I don’t know how much game film you watch, but the “inconsistent coaching” you’re talking about just isn’t really there. The OC schemed as well as he possibly could, but he can’t control what Milroe did once the ball was snapped.
When you consistently have WRs running free (sometimes 2) and the trigger guy can’t distribute it to them, it’s not coaching.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:12 pm to BigFolks6347
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Josh Allen is
Josh Allen is going to get a lot of coaches fired because every team thinks they can turn a raw but high ceiling guy into the next Josh Allen. shite if the 49ers hadn't lucked into Purdy, Shanahan might be on the hot seat because Trey Lance sucks
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:29 pm to biggsc
I hope not. He was horrible...
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:59 pm to Marktastic86
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There aren't many Josh Allens out there. Milroe has never shown the ability to be shifty in the pocket and escape pressure like the QB's you're talking about.
That being said, I never thought Jalen Hurts would be anything close to the QB he's grown into. Maybe if Milroe lands in the right situation, he could have a nice career. Wish the best for him... as long as it's not in a Bama uni any longer.
Milroe would be amazing if a team puts him in a Taysom Hill type role. You have an athlete that you can use in running and potentially passing downs and saves a roster spot because you can also use him as a 2nd or 3rd string QB. He'll be a hell of a utility player if he isn't too proud to do it.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:09 pm to RolltidePA
People have been saying so-and-so can be the next Taysom Hill for several years now yet he was still the only kind of player like that out there. His skillset is more unique than people realize. Hill is a better overall runner compared to Milroe. Much better lateral quickness and though both may have similar top speeds Hill has a better initial burst
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:13 pm to 1BamaRTR
Milroe is very fast and is a good runner when it is pre-determined where he is running.
Case in point, he's very bad at the read option and he's a very bad lateral scrambler. On the other hand, he is as good a QB running the QB power out wide with a lead blocker as anybody I've ever seen.
But he's not good at making people miss and he's not super comfortable running through contact (he's not scared of it, he's just never had a good feel for it).
He's just got a very unique skillset filled with contradictions
Case in point, he's very bad at the read option and he's a very bad lateral scrambler. On the other hand, he is as good a QB running the QB power out wide with a lead blocker as anybody I've ever seen.
But he's not good at making people miss and he's not super comfortable running through contact (he's not scared of it, he's just never had a good feel for it).
He's just got a very unique skillset filled with contradictions
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:This! It’s almost maddening because he’s as physically gifted of a player as I’ve ever seen, and he could do so much, but things just don’t click for him.
He's just got a very unique skillset filled with contradictions
If he could get his head into the game, he’d be incredible.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:35 pm to Syd
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I think he’d kill it at a smaller school, like a Troy or South Alabama.
Milroe would transfer and start at half the schools in the SEC and 75% of the P5.
He’d be the starter next year guaranteed at AU, OU, MSU, MIZZOU, VU, ARK and probably OM just off the top of my head.
You think he couldn’t start at 90% of the B10? Wisconsin almost beat Oregon and their QB wouldn’t have beat out Lonergan or Holstein from the last two years.
Just because we know his limitations doesn’t mean other places wouldn’t love to have him and in NIL era that means multi million dollar deals being tossed around like it’s nothing. I could see Michigan throwing him $4-5M as a one year interim deal to bridge them to Underwood or Deion making a splash deal for him out at Colorado.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:45 pm to 1BamaRTR
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People have been saying so-and-so can be the next Taysom Hill for several years now yet he was still the only kind of player like that out there. His skillset is more unique than people realize. Hill is a better overall runner compared to Milroe. Much better lateral quickness and though both may have similar top speeds Hill has a better initial burst
Well... Hill is pretty much to only guy that accepted that role. Any of the other so-and-so and likely Milroe won't agree to that position and see themselves as the next great QB. Guys like Justin Fields just wouldn't embrace the role if asked.
Kordell Stewart and Antwaan Randle-El did it years before Hill, it's not a completely unique skillset.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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gets a couple years to learn and get confident before he gets thrown out there.
These guys would be much dumber than I thought if one of them drafts Milroe in the first round and then "throws him out there." Aside from all of the mechanics issues, it's obvious he can't read a defense and the college game moves to fast for him to process quickly.
And to think he can go out and instantly dominate at the NFL level. Only this site full of superfans and nerds believe that.
The draft site I saw, had him 3rd QB but 2nd round pick. I guess they're not too high on this batch of QBs.
Do you think Milroe goes if he gets a second-round grade? I think he's arrogant enough to believe he's a top 5 pick.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:56 pm to TS1926
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These guys would be much dumber than I thought if one of them drafts Milroe in the first round and then "throws him out there." Aside from all of the mechanical issues, it's obvious he can't read a defense and the college game moves to fast for him to process quickly.
And to think he can go out and instantly dominate at the NFL level. Only this site full of superfans and nerds believe that.
The draft site I saw, had him 3rd QB but 2nd round pick. I guess they're not too high on this batch of QBs.
Do you think Milroe goes if he gets a second-round grade? I think he's arrogant enough to believe he's a top 5 pick.
First, I don't think even in the "best case scenario" I'm describing you would spend a 1st round pick on him. A 2nd at most, more likely a 3rd. Though it would depend how confident you are in your ability to mold his game after 12-24 months.
Now that Allar is sticking in school this QB group is just not very good and doesn't even really have many high upside guys.
1. Sanders (Top 10 pick)
2. Beck (1st-2nd)
3. Ward (1st-3rd)
4. Milroe (2nd-3rd)
5. Dart (3rd-5th)
6. Ewers (4th-6th)
Then you have guys like Gabriel, Leonard, Shough. Just not much at the top nor in terms of depth. It's the best class he could ever hope to be a part of.
There just isn't going to be an NFL draft in 2024 where less than 3 QBs are taken in the first 60-70 picks, regardless of how thin the class is.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:57 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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You were a leading Milroe fangirl here for years. You're really not in a position to insult anyone else's judgment on this issue.
Yes I am because most of you guys takes are STUPID.
I have been very consistent with Milroe having shortcomings and hoping he fixes them... no differently then SummerOfGeorge, Nick Saban and KDB.
However dummies who probably never played or coached the sport know Milroe is just trash.
The guy keeps fooling us because he has a ton of talent but he continually receded when he is on the cusp of turning the corner to become better.
The guy from the 1st half of Georgia game would trash every team in college football. The issue is if literally anything breaks down Milroe won't carry the team.. usually he will breakdown even worse.
Look at the first half against Oklahoma. He was play decent he just had horrible playcalling and WRs and TE with 4 dropped balls which kill drives.
Second half starts and he's okay. He makes a nice pass to Prentice and we're moving the ball. The IMMEDIATE next play, a stupid playcall to throw a WR screen and Prentice not even trying to make a block leds to a bad interception
Instead of Milroe shaking it off... he does what we all expect. Turns to BadMilroe and once he goes there we are FUCCKED because we all know we can't depend on our OL, our RBs or our OC. We have needed Milroe and Ryan Williams to make plays.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:59 pm to hwnd
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On the field? They’re few and far between. When he’s on, he’s good. When he’s not, the entire team suffers.
Yeah on the field lol.
When he is on we're unbeatable. The problem is as you said the guy is mentally weak and falls apart in the middle of games when the OL makes a mistake or the WR/TE make mistakes.
It's crazy because at time he is playing decent and just allows something that has nothing to do with him to affect him so badly he turns to pure shite.
Any team that drafts him needs to get him a psychiatrist before anything else. That's what we needed to get him.. if we have we need to fire that one because they obviously aren't doing a good job
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:01 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Saints take him to replace Taysom Hill.
That would work actually.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:02 pm to YStar
quote:Not all of us.
The guy keeps fooling us because he has a ton of talent but he continually receded when he is on the cusp of turning the corner to become better.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:13 pm to CrimsonCrusade
He's the Allan Lichtman of this board. You know someone is lost in the head when they're embarrassingly wrong and they won't shut up about it.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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He's just got a very unique skillset filled with contradictions.
Bullseye.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:04 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Not all of us.
I'd rather be aligned with Saban, KDB and others than the braintrust here.
I was one of those who wanted Ty to take the job and when he didn't, I had to accept the fact Milroe gave us the best opportunity and I needed to get behind that.
Instead of making conspiracies you take things for what they are and you support the team.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:11 pm to imjustafatkid
Doesn't every player on Bama's roster make more money than the players on the Stallions?
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