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re: Maybe it wasn’t all Tommy Rees

Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
22514 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:05 pm to
Everyone seems pissy tonight.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
925 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:06 pm to
You are looking like a bit of a moron. Y-star knows football at a level you could likely never understand. Is he some kind of savant when it comes to all things football...No. But he does have a been there done that knowledge beyond what the vast majority of the current guys on the team will ever have.

We have some coaches on this board who have a pretty good understanding of the game as a whole. We have alot of people who played at the HS level. We have a few that played at the college level. As far asI know, we only have one regular that played at a level beyond college.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
4721 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:08 pm to
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Everyone seems pissy tonight.


I am. I'm just tired of all these upset ignorant people posting negative shite all the time. It must be awful to be that upset all the time. They can't ever say anything good, think they know it all. They're combative and generally full of shite.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44121 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:40 pm to
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You're still a racist moron that just likes to troll


Yet you are unable to give an example of this. Why is that?

Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
3868 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:45 pm to
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this looks like the same thing we saw last year

Last season 17 points
This season 42 points
I’d argue that there’s been some improvement, although more improvement would be nice
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8623 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:05 am to
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Saban couldn’t have made a change even if he wanted to. That’s why he left. He sure looks pretty energetic in his 5000 commercials and College Gameday job, don’t you think?


I agree somewhat with this. Saban isn't out of gas. He's at GameDay. Then back in T-town for the games. He's down on the field before halftime.

Something happened in that locker room last year that made Saban say, "frick this" about coaching. I know. He's rich and 72 and Miss Terry said this and that, and watching ducks shite on the lawn at the lake, blah blah blah.

But he also is the consummate professional. He'll keep what happened in the locker room low key. I think he's enjoying not being in coaching and he's probably even surprised by how much he's enjoying not being in coaching. At least I hope so. But, I do think that there's something to the notion that the players are taking over locker rooms. Not just at BAMA, either.

The offensive play calling tonight was pretty pathetic. How many times can BAMA run the RB up the middle on 1st down? FFS. Haynes and Miller rushed 17x on 1st downs. Milroe either ran or passed 17x on 1st Downs. So, as much as I want to complain about always running on 1st down, the QB had just as many passes/scrambles as RBs had 1st down runs. Which surprised me. I am going to believe, for now, that the game plan was vanilla AF and that was done for a reason. I hope the play book is much more exotic than what BAMA showed tonight.

My point is that people tend to point to what they see is the problem without acknowledging that what they want done is being done but isn't as successful as what they think it will be.

Also, maybe I'm wrong, but has the slant disappeared from BAMA's play book? The idea of beating the blitz and otherwise aggressive D-line play is to not hold on to the ball. It's why Ewers looks so great. He doesn't hold the ball. Milroe holds the ball because that's what running backs do, and he's a running back, playing QB. But look at the NFL... because that's where Milroe wants to be. Now ask yourself, "Who in their right mind would want to be a running back in the NFL?"
Posted by BasedCrimson
Member since Jun 2024
1019 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:13 am to
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Something happened in that locker room last year that made Saban say, "frick this" about coaching.

I mean he says exactly this in his ESPN interview right after retiring.
He alluded to players spiking their helmets after the Michigan loss.

Guess who spiked their helmet after the Michigan loss? Jalen Milroe.


I've been watching Saban for long enough to where I can read between the lines. He doesn't give much away, but when he does, CLUE IN. He's dropping a nugget that points to a much bigger story.
I don't think it's crazy to suggest that a big reason why he retired when he did is because the thought of running another season with Milroe at QB wasn't especially enticing to him. If he had AJ McCarron at QB - I guarantee you he'd still be coaching. Put it that way...

Age was definitely a factor. Not saying it wasn't. But if he liked the players and the culture more, we'd have probably seen him stick around for another 2-3 years at least.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 6:16 am
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18489 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:48 am to
Are we supposed to take your word for it?

Judging by the downvotes he gets not many folks are buying that BS.

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19993 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:52 am to
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Fill us in big man.

And with that line I’m going to let you two have some time together and check out of this thread immediately.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9482 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 7:03 am to
Hey if y’all didn’t know Ystar played college football. Ask him about it. Or don’t, he’ll still tell you.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19052 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:32 am to
Not just college.

Now melt about it. Keep me in your poor head
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8623 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:09 pm to
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Guess who spiked their helmet after the Michigan loss? Jalen Milroe.



In my experience the truest and most bitter frustration comes from being wrong more than it comes from failure. I've long since thought that Milroe changed that last play vs Michigan despite what the coaches wanted. I believe Milroe wanted to score that TD and wanted the glory. It's my opinion and I don't expect anyone to agree with it.
This is the kind of soft mutiny that Saban knows is happening around the sport. The Process is a top-down dictatorship with Saban at the top. Seeking personal glory is antithetical to The Process. If AJ had been a gloryhound Saban would've benched his arse faster than he could say "Aight." This approach to personnel changes just isn't possible any longer. Therefore, The Process was no longer the authority at BAMA. So, Saban made his exit.
This is unavoidable. So long as NIL wasn't around, Saban was the portal through which players had to pass to get paid by way of an NFL career. And I'm not railing against NIL. It's a thing now and it's never going away. But if the only way for you to get paid as a player was to do what Saban said when he said it, Saban had complete control. This just isn't the case anymore. Saban's Process depended 100% on being in complete control. When he realized he didn't have complete control, it was deuces.
Am I saying Milroe cost us 2-3 or more years of Saban? Yeah. Kinda.

Edit: true to form, knowing totalitarian coaches are becoming obsolete, BAMA went out and hired the best coach available to follow Saban. He is changing the entire culture. Hopefully it goes completely unnoticed because he continues to win at a high level. Let's hope he's Barry Switzer without BAMA having to live through Gomer Jones and George Fairbanks.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
5392 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:11 pm to
You’re not wrong. Signing Milroe may have been the worst thing to happen to our program and helped usher out the GOAT. The sooner the better we can turn the page to 2025.
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14699 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:19 pm to
Where things go from valid criticism of play to conjecture and personal feelings about an individual.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16130 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:21 pm to
It’s not “all” anybody.

I swear to God I should know better at this point but some of y'all have the mental capacity of a goldfish.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8623 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:24 pm to
I thinknits more the culture than one player. Milroe is a running back. Am I supposed to believe that Saban doesn't realize this? bullshite.

Am I hallucinating or didn't Milroe begin his career as a RB? Didn't he wear number 12? Didn't he catch a TD pass out of the back field once? I could've sworn this happened. I don't remember the game but it happened.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16130 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:26 pm to
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Am I hallucinating or didn't Milroe begin his career as a RB?

You’re hallucinating. He’s never caught a pass. The fact that you’re certain he did speaks volumes.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16130 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:31 pm to
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He alluded to players spiking their helmets after the Michigan loss. Guess who spiked their helmet after the Michigan loss? Jalen Milroe.

Saban is the goat but the guy probably broke a couple dozen headsets while the coach here, so him being high and mighty about a guy momentarily showing his arse after a heartbreaking loss doesn’t really resonate. Its passion and fire when he does it but classless when someone else does?
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15828 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Am I hallucinating or didn't Milroe begin his career as a RB?


Have you been buying ayahuasca from Aaron Rodgers?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24369 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:36 pm to
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It’s not “all” anybody.

It’s so fricking annoying in thing in sports fandom. People love putting blame on one person or play or whatever. This is a team sport. In almost every case there are multiple players or coaches that can take some blame each
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