re: Let's Be Real..

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BUT Ty Simpson has had every opportunity in the world to take the job, and has failed. He had an entire offseason to beat Milroe in an open QB competition - he couldn't do it. He was worse than Milroe in the 2023 Spring game. He was worse in 2023 fall camp.

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I am not nor have I advocated for Simpson over Milroe. But lets remember M Jones was in the same boat as Simpson. Time will tell if Simpson will see the field. And please before someone responds read what I said. I am not advocating for Simpson or think that he is better currently.

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At least Milroe hasn't thrown an INT yet.

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Fumble is just as bad as a INT. Both are turnovers.

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Our recruiting has been sub-par at QB and WR for quite a while now. You could even lump RB in there too. We haven't recruited an elite RB since Najee Harris - just keepin it 100

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Everyone wants to compare our WR recruiting to one class that may never be repeated. Get over it. And our current RB room is very good.

Some of you I am wondering how long you have been a fan of UA or followed recruiting. We have a lot of spoiled fans.

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You can’t be a first round draft pick if you can’t throw slants and other intermediate touted. Coker and GMAC could at least hit those.

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McElroy once literally got benched for Ingram as a wildcat QB because he could not complete a forward pass of any variety besides interception.

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BUT Ty Simpson has had every opportunity in the world to take the job, and has failed. He had an entire offseason to beat Milroe in an open QB competition - he couldn't do it. He was worse than Milroe in the 2023 Spring game. He was worse in 2023 fall camp.

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I'd say Ty was a redshirt freshman last year with zero experience. He wasn't ready, and would have had to have been truly exceptional to win the starting job. And he was pretty close to doing it, partly because nobody else really took the job.

Then Milroe plays a year and wins the hearts and minds of America with his dazzling smile, sportscenter highlights, and his acknowledgement by the famed football acumen of the Heisman voters. He's got his arm around Deboer's neck as soon as the plane arrives from Washington, and every media outlet in the world, along with Milroe himself assumes he's cemented into the starting role. Deboer being Mr. Positivity, is kind of in an awkward position, IF he had any doubts about who would be QB. I think, if he believed it was a close call, it would be easier, and might help with team continuity to not rock the boat.

That said, I will 100% admit that if I could chose only one, I'd choose a game manager QB that understands how to line everyone up, change plays, and knows where to go with the ball over a dynamic QB that maybe doesn't do those things well, but makes explosive plays. That's MY preference, so, naturally, I'm just not a huge fan of Milroe's game.

I don't think either QB's skillset is as cut and dried as the scenario above. Ty is more dynamic than some think, and Milroe isn't cluless. But we all know which one leans more each way.

One last thing about Simpson- I remember a lot of the same folks argued with me about Mac Jones because they didn't think he looked good coming in at garbage time after only getting second team reps while waiting behind Tua. Simpson is no slouch. He was a 5 star recruit, much higher than Jalen, for a reason. Recruiting rankings don't always transfer, but I've heard nothing but good things about him, including that the coaches love him, and he's ready to play.

All that said, at this point, they're not going to switch QBs until they have no choice. That ship has sailed.

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But lets remember M Jones was in the same boat as Simpson.

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Not even close. Mac Jones was sitting behind a top 5 draft pick at QB and currently one of the best QBs in the NFL.

Ty Simpson has been unable to surpass a QB in Milroe who won't be drafted anywhere close to the first round.

In other words, our QB situation was 10x better, and in Mac's limited action he showed that he was a baller, and could sling it all over the field, putting the ball on a dime. He had INT issues, but his accuracy was insane.

We don't have a single QB at Alabama right now who will ever start a game in the NFL. In 2018 we had 3 QBs who would go on to lead NFL teams to the playoffs. Night and day.

Which leads me to my next point:

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Everyone wants to compare our WR recruiting to one class that may never be repeated. Get over it. And our current RB room is very good.

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Oh how the standard has fallen. Every single Saban team had an elite first round draft pick at WR.
Julio Jones, Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley, the Rydeouts, John Metchie, and then...... nothing until Ryan Williams. (I know Jamo but we didn't recruit or develop him)

At RB, we always had elite first round RBs. Mark Ingram, Trent, Eddie Lacy, TJ Yeldon, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris, and then.... nothing

If you're noticing a theme here, we've had a major offensive talent dropoff starting in 2020. Maybe BoB fricked our recruiting evaluations. Idk. But Kalen DeBoer had a lot more talent to work with at Washington the last 2 seasons, and that's insane considering the level we supposedly recruit at.

He went from Michael Penix Jr. , Rome Odunze, Germie Bernard, etc., a Joe Moore winning Oline, etc.
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Milroe, (had to bring Germie Bernard because we had jack shite at WR), a 17 year-old kid, and an offensive line that is struggling

Not saying we've got no talent, but there are many teams out there right now with a better QB and better WRs - straight up.

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you need a guy who can go through reads, throw the ball accurately and in today's game, extend plays with his feet.

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Ty Simpson can do all this

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How do you know that?

Because you don’t need a massive sample size to see it. We have two spring games and probably 80~ backup snaps in the past year and a half. Its very clear he goes through reads and progresses faster than Milroe

The complaint about Ty was never processing, it was pushing in situations you didn’t need to push in.

To play contrarian (and, after all, isn't that what message boards are for? ), there are no more "transition years" in the portal age. What you have this year is what you have this year. Next year's team may be a completely different entity. You are basically all in each and every season. If you think you have a championship level roster you push your chips to the middle of the table with the higher ceiling QB right now.

Let's say, for sake of argument, that's CKD's opinion - Jalen is the "safer" option (lower reward/lower risk). It could very well be he thinks Milroe's floor is high enough to get us across the finish line, anyway.

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2 time defending champ UGA

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Anyone that has a brain can not believe this determines how good a team is the next year. And Saban has also said what a team did the previous year means nothing. Especially with free agency(Transfer portal) and NIL.

Move Milroe to TE and he's a 1st round pick.